Corona Virus Update

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  1. Richard Franks

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    It could be a big one if we don't watch out and take all the pre-cautions that are needed and we could end up worse than March. President Donald Trump and his fans and followers would think of this as nothing but they could end up wrong and could be sorry for it. If Trump got tested positive for COVID-19, he'd change his tune and so would everything else.
     
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    I guess you didn't follow the discussion. I already had the virus and can't get it again. Hence, no mask needed here.
     
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    I don't know whether you can get it again or not. Don't bet on the fact you won't get it again.
     
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    Out of the Millions who have had it, I haven't read any verified reports of someone getting it twice.
     
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    The "Experts" in that article state they don't know for sure that one can get infected twice. Those 2 cases could have either been misdiagnosed one of those times or they never got over the virus. Mine was over 5 months ago.
     
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    “Professor Dale Godfrey, Head of the Immunology laboratory at the Doherty Institute, told newsGP that while more time is required to properly measure the results, there is evidence from previous research into other coronaviruses that immunity typically does not last very long.”

    https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/study-raises-questions-over-long-term-covid-19-imm
     
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    Maybe you can and maybe you can't. It all depends on what the circumstances are.
     
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    The number of people infected with the coronavirus in different parts of the United States was anywhere from two to 13 times higher than the reported rates for those regions, according to data released Tuesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
    The findings suggest that large numbers of people who did not have symptoms or did not seek medical care may have kept the virus circulating in their communities.
    The study indicates that even the hardest-hit area in the study — New York City, where nearly one in four people has been exposed to the virus — is nowhere near achieving herd immunity, the level of exposure at which the virus would stop spreading in a particular city or region. Experts believe 60 percent of people in an area would need to have been exposed to the coronavirus to reach herd immunity.
     
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    The analysis, based on antibody tests, is the largest of its kind to date; a study of a subset of cities and states was released last month.

    “These data continue to show that the number of people who have been infected with the virus that causes Covid-19 far exceeds the number of reported cases,” said Dr. Fiona Havers, the C.D.C. researcher who led the study. “Many of these people likely had no symptoms or mild illness and may have had no idea that they were infected.”

    About 40 percent of infected people do not develop symptoms, but they may still pass the virus on to others. The United States now tests roughly 700,000 people a day. The new results highlight the need for much more testing to detect infection levels and contain the viral spread in various parts of the country.

    For example, in Missouri, the prevalence of infections is 13 times the reported rate, suggesting that the state missed most people with the virus who
    may have contributed to its outsized outbreak.

    Dr. Havers emphasized that even those who do not know their infection status should wear cloth face coverings, practice social distancing and wash their hands frequently.

    The researchers analyzed blood samples from people who had routine clinical tests or were hospitalized to determine if they had antibodies to the coronavirus — evidence of prior infection. They had released early data from six cities and states in June. The study published in the journal JAMA on Tuesday expands that research by including four more regions. They also posted data from later time periods for eight of those 10 sites to the C.D.C.’s website on Tuesday.

    The results indicate that in vast swaths of the country, the coronavirus still has touched only a small fraction of the population. In Utah, for example, just over one percent of people had been exposed to the virus by early June. The rate was 2.2 percent for Minneapolis-St. Paul as of the first week of June, 3.6 percent for the Philadelphia metropolitan region as of May 30 and 1 percent for the San Francisco Bay Area as of April 30.

    In some regions, the gap between estimated infections and reported cases decreased as testing capacity and reporting improved. New York City, for example, showed a 12-fold difference between actual infections and the reported rate in early April, and a 10-fold difference in early May.

    “This is not coming as a shock or surprise to epidemiologists,” Carl Bergstrom, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Washington in Seattle, said in an email. “All along, we have expected that only about 10 percent of the cases will be reported.”

    Tracking the numbers over time can provide useful insights into the virus’ spread and about a region’s capacity to cope with the epidemic, other experts said.

    “The fact that they’re sort of marking it out over time and looking at it over a longer duration will actually be super-informative,” said Dr. Rochelle Walensky, a researcher at Harvard University who wrote an editorial accompanying the JAMA paper.

    For example, South Florida ticked up to 2.9 percent as of April 24 from 1.9 percent just two weeks earlier. Missouri’s numbers barely budged from 2.7 percent as of April 26 to 2.8 percent as of May 30. Numbers for both regions are likely to be much higher in the next round of analyses because of the surge of infections in those regions since those dates.

    New York City showed the biggest leap in its rate, from 6.9 percent as of April 1 to 23.3 percent as of May 6, consistent with its outbreak.

    The city’s estimate closely matches the 22.7 percent prevalence found by a state survey, which tested patrons in supermarkets from April 19-28.

    Some experts criticized the state survey at the time because people shopping during the lockdown were more likely to be young, or might have recovered from illness and felt safe.

    “These consistent results offer mutual support to two very different methods used,” Eli Rosenberg, an epidemiologist at the State University of New York at Albany and lead author of the state study.

    The C.D.C. study also has limitations, Dr. Walensky said, because many of the people who ventured out during the lockdowns for tests or were hospitalized would have been severely ill, and might not have been representative of the general population.

    Each region also varied “in terms of where they were on their own epidemic curve and varied in terms of the amount of testing that they did,” she said.

    The study also did not collect data on race, ethnicity, diagnostic and symptom history or prevention behaviors, Dr. Rosenberg said. “The approach used in the grocery store study allows for these data collections by pairing the specimen collection with a survey,” he said.

    Still, experts said the findings were valuable, despite limitations.

    “This population may not be exactly representative of the population as a whole, but the hope is that it is close enough to allow us to draw meaningful conclusions,” Dr. Bergstrom said.

    Several recent studies have suggested that antibody levels, especially in people with mild or no symptoms, may quickly decline. If that’s true, surveys like the C.D.C.’s might reflect only people who were infected within the previous two to three months, Dr. Rosenberg said, “and complicate interpretation of results over time.”
     
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    [QUOTE="

    Keep working
    Keep wearing masks
    Keep your distance
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    Good logic we should all follow
     
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    The total number of coronavirus cases reported in the United States passed 4 million on Thursday, reflecting a rapid acceleration of infections in the country since the first case was recorded on Jan. 21, a Reuters tally showed.


    It took the country 98 days to reach 1 million cases, but just 16 days to go from 3 million to 4 million, according to the tally. The case total indicates that at least one in 82 people in the United States have been infected.

    The average number of new U.S. cases is now rising by more than 2,600 every hour, the highest rate in the world.

    As the pandemic has spread from the early epicenter of New York to the South and West, federal, state and local officials have clashed over how to ease lockdowns imposed to curb the infection rate, including in some states whether to rollback reopenings.

    The ordering of face coverings, a common practice around the world and recommended by the federal government's own health experts, has also become highly politicized, with some Republican governors particularly resistant.

    Hostility to the idea appeared to be dwindling this week, including from the Republican administration of President Donald Trump, who once dismissed mask-wearing as an effort to be politically correct.

    Trump, who faces falling poll numbers over his handling of the health crisis ahead of the November election, has long refused to wear a mask in public but this week encouraged Americans to do so.

    While Trump did not issue a national mandate, U.S. Assistant Secretary for Health Brett Giroir on Thursday cited the importance of masks to bring the virus under control.

    "We have to do our mitigation steps: wear a mask, avoid the crowds. We won't see hospitalizations and deaths go down for a couple of weeks because (they are) lagging indicators, but we are turning that tide," Giroir told Fox News Network.
     
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    WEIRD, BECAUSE CALIFORNIA LOCKED DOWN HARD AND LONG, AND ALL THE PRESS HAS BEEN ABOUT HOW AWFUL THINGS ARE IN FLORIDA: Gov. Newsom: California Sets Single-Day Record With Nearly 13,000 New COVID-19 Cases.

    At this point, I suspect we’re pretty much past any containment, and this will just burn through until it burns out, like every other pandemic in human history. It may be that once the Chinese allowed international flights out of Wuhan to continue, the fuse was already lit. China locked down domestic flights and allowed 5,000,000 to leave Wuhan for the rest of the world, while they were concealing person to person transfer.

    https://www.kcra.com/article/intera...re-on-californias-covid-19-watchlist/33268626
     
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    When all other countries have gotten over their Coronavirus in their own way, The USA still has it and there is still no end in sight. What does this tell you? I'll think we'll still have the virus come the fall and I won't be surprised if it dies happen. We have a President that thought it would all go away but what went wrong?
     
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    I think it will continue to rampage. My state, in Australia, is experiencing a surge in cases.
    I think that we weren’t diligent enough about containment and that we’ve forgotten about infection control.
    We are reliant upon old fashioned mechanical measures now - masks, distancing and isolation. We don’t have a vaccine and there are many people who probably wouldn’t have it anyway.

    Usual seasonal flu infections here are way down on usual numbers.
     
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    I don't think Australia has it as bad like in some of the parts in the USA.
    Anyway, stay well.
     
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    Thank you and yes, we’re getting off lightly compared with some places. Small population helps.
     
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    CA hit the dimmer switch on reopening a week ago. They are using a data driven model to ensure adequate ICU facilities on a County by County basis.

    https://www.kcra.com/article/intera...re-on-californias-covid-19-watchlist/33268626

    If you hover over the county you'll see where they exceed plan. As soon as they are at plan for two weeks, the dimmer switch is reversed.

    As for WHO, they have been shown to be such liars that their credibility is largely shot. Real shame, we spent a lot of money keeping them in operation so that they could be useful in just such a time as this, instead they chose to be lying parrots for the Slavers of Outlaw Lying China.

    Sec. Pompeo Informs British Members of Parliament: WHO Director was bought by China


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    “…there was a deal making [Tedros’] election”


    World Health Organization Director General Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus was bought by China.

    The director-general of the World Health Organisation was bought by China’s government and his election had resulted in dead Britons.
    WHO was co-opted by China when Tedros was selected as WHO Director General in 2017. The NY Times published a story when Tedros was elected which noted there had been some controversy and that global politics played a role in the choice of Tedros:
    Times of London reported that China used its aid budget to drag Tedros across the finish line:
     
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    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced Saturday that the state’s COVID-19 hospitalizations and ICU patients were at a new low since mid-March, and urged its residents to continue following the protocols that fueled New York’s declining coronavirus numbers.
    The latest statewide figures indicated hospitalizations on Friday were down to 646, the lowest figure since March 18, while the number of patients in intensive care units stood at 149 — the least since March 15.

    “It’s essential that we stay vigilant by social distancing, wearing masks and washing our hands as this pandemic is far from over,” said the governor, sounding a cautionary note despite the decline. “I urge everyone to stay New York tough and New York smart.”

    While the news was heartening, Cuomo said this was no time for New Yorkers to become overconfident in the war against the lethal virus.
    The latest New York state death toll stood at 25,103 with the latest 10 victims included in Saturday’s numbers.

    The figures for New Yorkers testing positive also remained low, with slightly more than 1% of the 71,466 tests returned Friday indicating coronavirus infection.

    “New York’s numbers continue to show progress in the midst of alarming increased in COVID-19 cases throughout the country and a renewed need to ensure compliance with state guidance here at home,” said Cuomo.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the number of U.S. cases broke the 4 million mark on Friday, with 143,868 deaths linked to coronavirus.

    In Texas, where there are 361,125 positive cases, hundreds of local bar owners said they would defy Gov. Greg Abbott’s order to shut down after a surge in coronavirus cases.

    The death toll in Florida, another hotspot state, climbed above 5,500 amid the 385,091 people diagnosed with COVID-19.
     
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    there is
    1.hidroxi chloroquine, azitromicin, zinc
    2. corticoids
    3. ivermectin
    4. heparin
    5. cpap

    and there is

    vanessa capsules

     
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    There may be something that I don't understand about the Coronavirus getting worse when it should be getting better. It has gotten manditory in manhy areas that we are required to weat the masks when entering places of businesses. There are some there are some folks that have no intention to wearing the masks at all. Some claim that they can't breathe through the mask and they just want to rebel against society. Take a look at Trump, He won't wear the mask. I just don't know his real reason. Trump mentioned that COVID-19 would go away, He also mentioned poisonous solutions that could kill and those are not solutions to kill the Coronavirus.

    I tell you there are still no solutions that will make COVID-19 go away. Forget about some of those magic potions that are no more a fantasy of wishful thinking. If that may be the case, You might as well wish your life awaym and who wants to do that? We have too many senior citizens dying from COVID-19 and do we want that? No! The thing to do is do the right thing to stem COVID-19 once and for all. The time to do it is now.
     
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    Wearing the mask without any reason is an another type of slavery.
     
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    No it isn't
     

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