Mask Denier Tx. Rep. Louie Gohmert tests positive for Covid

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  1. ECA

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    :applause:
     
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    Totally agree
     
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    Not this crap again. Masks are used to reduce transmission from the infected mask wearer onto healthy people. How many times does that have to be repeated? Oh, BTW, masks also have some benefit to the mask wearer too, though not as much.
     
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    Prevent means 100% protection. No one has said that masks give 100% to the wearer or to others
     
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    This is how the RW operates these days:

    -If masks do not protect 100% against covid, they are useless.
    -If only one covid testing mistake is discovered, that means you cannot believe ANY covid numbers.
    -If they see one video of a violent protester, it mean ALL protesters are violent.
    -If one vote is miscounted, a whole election is fake.

    You see, all they want to do is sow the seeds of mistrust, division, fear, hatred, because they BELIEVE it promotes their Trump agenda, whatever that may be. Actually, the new agenda will be to cast doubt on the 2020 election results -- already months ahead of time.
     
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    The mask manufacturers . . . disagree. Odd, isn't it?
     
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    Disagree on what? Perhaps you can post that disclaimer that says the mask gives zero protection to others from being infected by the Covid infected mask wearer?
     
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    Once again the Political Left attempts to ADJUST reality for their viewing pleasure:
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    You mean like the disclaimer they place on the side of the packaging?
     
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    Well copy and post that disclaimer saying that the mask gives zero protection to others from being infected by the Covid infected mask wearer
     
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    https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
    A recent study published in Health Affairs, for example, compared the COVID-19 growth rate before and after mask mandates in 15 states and the District of Columbia. It found that mask mandates led to a slowdown in daily COVID-19 growth rate, which became more apparent over time. The first five days after a mandate, the daily growth rate slowed by 0.9 percentage-points compared to the five days prior to the mandate; at three weeks, the daily growth rate had slowed by 2 percentage-points.

    Another study looked at coronavirus deaths across 198 countries and found that those with cultural norms or government policies favoring mask-wearing had lower death rates.

    Two compelling case reports also suggest that masks can prevent transmission in high-risk scenarios, said Chin-Hong and Rutherford. In one case, a man flew from China to Toronto and subsequently tested positive for COVID-19. He had a dry cough and wore a mask on the flight, and all 25 people closest to him on the flight tested negative for COVID-19. In another case, in late May, two hair stylists in Missouri had close contact with 140 clients while sick with COVID-19. Everyone wore a mask and none of the clients tested positive.

    Masks may be more effective as a “source control” because they can prevent larger expelled droplets from evaporating into smaller droplets that can travel farther.


    If two people are wearing masks, the viral particles can travel about 5 feet away from each individual. When an infected person is not wearing a mask, those particles can float through the air 30 feet or more and stay alive for up to 30 hours.
     
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    I think Fauci telling us we should wear masks, is not because it actually prevents infection, but to try and calm a worried population by giving them a placebo and hoping to prevent panic. If he told the people there really isn't much we can do, other than to shutter everyone inside for a month. That's not an option because if we come out a month later, our economy would have collapsed.
     
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    If the mask is incapable of filtering out the small virus particles, then it does not reduce transmission of the virus, anymore than talking into your cupped hands would.

    Surgical masks and homemade masks don't filter out the virus. If anything, the moisture collecting in homemade masks create a nice warm surface for the virus collect around for extended period of time, and creates a ready contact surface to spread it.
     
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    You call me a liar, and then go on to repeat what i said, that even cloth masks prevent phlegm and mucus form projecting thru the air and infecting a person.

    I swear to god, it's like the same irrational and uniformed person is posting these asinine, unseasoned arguments, and using multiple accounts on this forum. Either that, or the TDS affliction is so severe and wide spread, and it's damaged the cognitive abilities and rational thought for so many people, who are posting alike.

    A mask which by design, cannot filter out a virus is not effective to prevent spread of a virus. What the hell is so difficult for you, and your like-minded brethren to grasp???
     
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    Lazy editorial title which then goes on to say "Americans are increasingly adopting the use of cloth face masks to slow the spread of COVID-19, and the latest science may convince even more to do so".

    The word "prevent" was in reference to a study on a salon where mask wearing was mandatory and found that 100% (ie prevent) of the customers reported that they did not become infected from two of the stylists who were infected but wore a mask when carrying out their job. So thank you for providing this link that gives even greater support for wearing a mask
     
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    Blow on your hand. Then blow again at your hand but place a paper tissue over your mouth. Air molecules that you are blowing out of your mouth are thousands of times smaller than viruses so perhaps you could explain why a paper tissue which has huge holes within its construction has such a dramatic effect on the air you blew out?

    Also, don't touch your mask and clean it properly - don't leave it hanging around. It's not hard to do
     
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    Well..,. it's you against Science so... We know which side rational people will stand with. Hint: not yours!
     
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    You are trying to make the case, albeit in a simplistic manner, that just about any tissue paper type mask will protest against viruses, and yet the FDA does not certify those masks to protect the wearer from viruses.

    That last sentence just adds new, but obvious variables which help defeat the effectiveness of any mask, when we have to wear them all freaking day. Forcing people to wear masks all day long at work, 40 or more hours a day, is going to create a lot of new problems. It's going to be about impossible for people not to engage in those variables which contaminate and greatly reduce the effectiveness of even N95 masks, not to mention the homemade masks. And yet, Fauci is moving the goal posts and promoting the notion that we should wear goggles or face shields.
     
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    I just posted an article from the CDC which used "prevent" eight times. They started off using the word "Prevent" in the damn title, and then used that word seven more times in the article. And yet you want to pretend they didn't? Good grief, just admit they did, and that the article is very misleading, and drop it.

    In fact, the CDC as a whole has been both grossly misleading and contradictory in recent months.
     
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    I stated that in the study at the salon the wearing of masks prevented the infection of all their customers on which I then thanked you for providing the link. The word prevent was referring to that one study and was used because no customer became infected from the two members of staff. No one has said that a mask will prevent infections for every case. And now you're saying that your link is misleading. Is that because you scored an open goal?
     
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    I agree, a paper tissue cannot be used as a mask but demonstrates that even a paper mask would provide some protection until it falls to bits. That is, any mask is better than no mask.

    Apart from my gf who is a nurse I don't know anyone who has to wear a mask for work. I only have worn my mask for about 30 minutes when I need to go to a nearby store. The longest time I have worn one was about 90 minutes when I needed to drop into a bank
     
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    Such a large percentage of the population are either asymptomatic, or only have minor flu symptoms for a couple days. An anecdotal tale, which is not credible, and has no business being put into a CDC document supporting the use of masks.
     
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    My state just made it mandatory for everyone to wear a mask indoors, at work, for the entire freaking work day.

    I don't disagree that masks help. What I disagree with is the hype and hysteria around wearing masks, and the notion that you are preventing the spread by wearing a mask all freaking day.

    Gov. Evers Issues Wisconsin Mandatory Masking Order

    The order requires face coverings for people ages 5 and up when they are indoors or in an enclosed area that is not their household and not complying with the order could result in a $200 fine.

    The order goes into effect on Saturday, August 1, the same day as when Jill Karofsky is sworn in as the newest justice of the state Supreme Court.
     
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    I understand it just fine. Folks, like you, push a narrative that is provably dangerous to others, and you offer your advice as if it is either beneficial or a prophylactic for their becoming infected, which it doesn't. And when called on it, you double down by suggesting that those of us who highlight just how dangerous a line of BS you're pushing out are somehow ignorant of the science that you actually cited demonstrating that your assertion and advice is also BS.
     
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