Wasserman Schultz says she was blocked from touring a Florida mail facility

So why do you thnk these career civil servants at the Post Office are a bunch of criminals covering up some conspiracy?

I am against the Universial mail in voting plans that Dems have come up with....but nobody has been against Absentee Ballots.

 

What makes you think she didn't do it like this the last time? She claims she did, and there was no drama or requirement that she schedule ahead of time.

There are threads all over this forum littered with comments that the postal workers are all in the bag for team blue, they will hand out ballots in democratic areas with careless abandon, and destroy ballots they receive from republican areas. I've seen you in those threads, so I know you've seen it.

Please explain how turning off a machine that saves employee time, is a cost saver. I can't wait to hear this.

 

If you trust the USPS, then there should be no issue with mail in voting, which is literally the same thing as voting by mail.

I don't think the USPS is filled with criminals. I have been hearing that from republicans who claim the USPS will help rig the election.

 

Because she didn't give them enough notice....hence why the tour was set up.

So then you can find these quotes easy if they are littered around....

Post office works don't...the Dem Governments are pushing for just that though....and who knows who ends up with them

What machines are you talking about? Are you talking about getting rid of old sorting machines that are unneeded?

 

I have no issue with absentee voting. Or voting system like in Oregon have have been around a decade. I have issues with ballots going on randomly to people who haven't even requested them

You literally have been claiming they are trying to hide something from Debbie

 

Maybe!

 

Same here, they couldn't just show up as it was a secure/guarded plant! Plus they would have had to wait on the safety man to escort them to whatever section was being worked, and the safety man only worked 8-5 Mon-Fri sooo there's that Same with postmasters, they work 8 to 5 5 days a week too, grunts don't have the authority to make that call, then again Debbie is a idiot and wouldn't know what real working men and hours is all about anyway, DUH..

 

It's always mail sorting time at distribution centers

 

In part yes, keep in mind she will have a security team with her, they will need a USPS escort and probably someone from the Postal Inspectors office for USPS security, the USPS will want to have one of their PIO's there to answer questions and if she wants to talk to some of the employee's a place for a meeting will need to be set up and those employee's will need to be backfilled out on the floor, they cannot just shut or slow down the place for a Congressman's Q&A session.

Bottom line is, she could find out the same information that she claims to be seeking by arraigning a meeting with the employees through the USPS's Union's without disrupting operations at a major sort facility, but that would not provide her with the drama she is seeking.

She is running for reelection, a large part of her base has literally passed away over the past decade, she has two strong Democrat contenders running against her and her only claim to fame is she hates Trump and has her lips thoroughly attached to Pelosi's rear end.

She needs air time and this dog and pony show is a good way for her to get some, the reality is she could stand in a sort facility and not have a clue as to what she is looking at, nor does she care, this is all theatrics to make it appear she is doing something by getting to the bottom of a non-existant problem.

Mail in voting has been estimated to increase sorting load by 2%, that is not going to bog down the USPS, more so when the majority of ballots are remaining in state, that is to say they are going from a voter to a Election Supervisors office in the same county.

Example due to the way the USPS routs mail in this area, our SOE is located in La Belle, I live in Clewiston, La Belle and Clewiston are 22 miles apart, however due to routing my ballot will go to West Palm Beach, Opa Locka, Fort Myers and then to La Belle.

If we crank up the sort load by 2% that might add a couple of hours getting my ballot through Opa Locka and worst case it will arrive at the SOE's PO box at say 8 in the morning versus 5 in the morning, but it will still be in the SOE's office by 10:00 am on election day if I waited right up to the deadline which most mail in voters don't do.

Another part of the process that is either unknown or is being ignored is as mail is sorted it is scanned and the scans of the mail pieces are stored, if for some reason a whole bunch of them went missing it would be a cakewalk for the USPS Postal Inspectors office to figure where they where diverted to.

Yes we all now mail gets misrouted, but the majority of that mail has hand printed address's on it that the sort system misreads and sends it off in the wrong direction, mail in ballots are bar coded and easy to sort properly, as such the chances of one going missing are very small.

I am sure DWS knows this, well hopefully she is not that ignorant, but she ignores that fact, it doesn't help her to push the Democratic line that Trump is sabotaging the USPS to screw the Democrats out of a fair election.

Which is an argument that doesn't make sense, from the outside the votes within it cannot be determined, so if Trump was sabotaging the process it would effect both parties, not just the Democrats.

The problem is internal polling has them upset, Biden/Harris is not doing well, so they need as much possible ammo to contest the election if and when Biden/Harris loses and that is part of the overall plan of doubt they are sowing.

But just for fun as a backup they plan to take it to the streets if needed and turn the election over there on the streets.

From an email I received this morning.

1. Trump will likely attempt to cling to power if he loses. While this would be a bombshell conclusion at any other time in American history, this is now entirely predictable. Trump has all but proclaimed he intended to contest the results, and as an incumbent President, Trump has quite a few tools at his disposal.

Why this matters: The important thing is that we don’t count on some magical source of restraint materializing to prevent Trump from doing this. We should believe what he tells us, and we should prepare for it.

2. We likely won’t know who won until days or weeks after Election Day. The country will see an unprecedented level of vote-by-mail in November and it’s going to take states time to process them all. In the absence of an absolutely historic landslide for Biden, it will likely take several days if not longer to determine the vote-winner in key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

Why this matters: Trump is likely to claim victory on election night regardless of the results, and he’ll label mail-in ballots as a fraud. If the public believes we should know the results on Election Day, they are more likely to believe Trump’s claims of fraud after Election Day. To avoid that, we must normalize the understanding that mail-in ballots take time to count, and that the election is not decided until all the ballots are counted.

3. The outcome of the crisis may not be decided by the courts, but by “a show of numbers in the streets.” Sit with this direct quote for a second. There is enough grey area in the law, and the GOP has done enough to stack the courts, that we cannot rely on the judicial branch to rein in Trump. The ultimate success of transition may very well come down to us mobilizing a grassroots insistence to respect the results.

Why this matters: It’s up to us. Trump is likely to marshall his forces after November 3rd. We cannot count on him to leave willingly. We cannot count on some existing institution to save us. It’s up to us to prepare to mobilize.

In other words if Trump doesn't win by a landslide and the Dems cannot convince the courts to rule for a Biden/Harris win , it's time to turn the U.S. into Portland.

 

She knows NOTHING, NOTHING......

 

Correct, sorting never stops, yes there are peaks in the process as the mail arrives from the various collection points at night and there is a push to get as much of that mail back out to be distributed, but unlike your local post office it never stops or shuts down, it runs 24/7.

 

No you don't, McDonalds maybe but the USPS is a secure facility, how is this not known?

 

Her claim is that she is not required to get approval to visit. She claims she did this in February without issue.

You are claiming she doesn't have the authority and that she gave tons of notice in February. I keep asking for your source on that and you keep repeating your claim. So far, your claim is baseless.

 

Doubtful, if so she would have been escorted right on schedule ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

Then post a copy of the letter she received stating she was to be allowed to enter Opa Locka, if not, all of what you are claiming is baseless.

If it's not in writing it never happened and if DWS had such a letter you can bet she would be handing copies to every media outlet in town, but she didn't, because it never happened, she lying and you fell for it hook line and sinker.

 

She's incorrect....or she wouldn't have before, and attempted to this time

She gave proper notice in Feb

I never said she doesn't have the authrotiy to request a tour....or that it was a "ton of notice'- just that it was more then the late afternoon before the 4am visit she wanted.

Do you have a source that she can demand a tour at any moment and get it right then? I am a tax payer, the Post Office works for me....can I just email them and say I want a tour at 4am?
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A poster on this thread gave a detailed post about the facility, and about why proper notice is required

 

Democrats learned the wrong lessons from 2016, and now have the country literally on edge. Isn't that letter the definition of yelling fire in a crowded theater?

 

What sort of information are you seeing about her proper authorization in February? You claim she did it properly. She claims she did it the same way this time. One of you is right.

 

Yeah....hence why she was able to get the tour

She didn't do it the same way, because notice was not timely....the Post Office responded to her office after they saw her email in the later afternoon....

 

How do you figure she is the boss? The Postal Service is run by a chain of command. At the top is a Board of Governors, and a Postmaster Genera -- below are subordinate managers.

Congressional investigations of Federal agencies are conducted at the request of Congress by the Government Accountability Office. Not by members of Congress. Congressional oversight committees can conduct hearings. The members of Congress cannot physically enter agency facilities at a whim.

Have the Dems requested a GAO audit of the USPS to address their concerns? And if not why not? In pondering this question consider that GAO is an independent agency that might not provide the desired report. Also, their reports are public.

You can educate yourself and look at the following.
https://www.gao.gov/about/

 

Bottom line and what the DWS defenders are ignoring is, if DWS had permission to tour Opa Locka, they would know about it and someone on her staff would have received a email indicating the tour was set up, people who work in government do not run on verbal instructions, when dealing with Congressmen, it's all in writing so everyone's butt is covered.

If DWS was actually invited, she would have been screaming at security, cameras in tow, here's my letter allowing me to enter this facility, but she doesn't have such a letter in writing,she made up the story, it's all a lie and her defenders are either ignorant of the way things work, or are deliberately ignoring such facts.

 

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I'm not making the claim.