Wasserman Schultz says she was blocked from touring a Florida mail facility

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So she should have called and said, "Hey, Deb here, I have some reports that are you intentionally not delivering mail. I'd like to come see for myself. How long do you need to hide the evidence? Can I come in three weeks?"

    This forum is overflowing with posts from Trump supporters claiming the post office is filled with criminals who want to rig the election. One of the Congressional members on oversight, whose job is literally to oversee the post office, attempts to do so, and now all of a sudden, these same people are screaming that we should trust the post office to monitor itself.

    So, please choose.

    a. The post office is corrupt, wants to rig the election and cannot be trusted
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    b. The post office is completely trustworthy, a paragon of virtue, and congress should rest at peace knowing all is well.
     
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    Same person who conspired to give Hillary advance notice of the questions in the 2016 election. So if any party cheated...

    This mail crap is their next conspiracy theory. It won't be long until they connect the USPS to Putin.
     
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    Well those reports were already discussed when the Post Master General testified.

    WHat she should ahve done is given notice and given them more then a handful of hours to prepare. They even reached out to her staff when they got the notice, late afternoon, thte day before her 4am request, and said they didn't have enough time to let the folks there know about the tour.

    I have not heard one poster or person suggest the post officce was trying to rig the election or filled with criminals....

    between those two choices, I got to go with B.....i've seen no evidence of any corruption at the Post Office. Folks just need to request their ballot as soon as they can, get your facts, and get that ballot mailed out as soon as you make up your mind. Don't wait til the last minute. This is the advice the Post office has given as well.

    I am more concerned with Dems sending out massive amounts of live ballots to people that don't even request the ballot. All these live ballots being out there things a little less secure. In addition, I am concerned with local voting boards not being prepared to handle the volume of mailed in ballots.
     
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    I have no love for her whatsoever. She was a thug in 2016, probably still is.

    That should not be related to this, though.

    The mail "crap" is what the republicans on this forum are claiming. They are laying all sorts of **** of the USPS. (Until this thread, now they are little angles.)
     
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    OK - good. I thought you were one claiming that mail in voting would be nothing but shenanigans.

    I'd offer, however, that "time to prepare" is really just code for "hide the evidence."
     
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    universail mail in voting certainly can be...but that's not the Post Office fault.

    Hide what evidence? So you think the Post Office and it's employees are a bunch of criminals? Wow....I think they are hard working people
     
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    Not on the USPS but on Democrats who could in theory change or alter or stuff in mail in ballots.

    This should've ended when Fauci said it was safe to vote normally. Don't we trust the experts now?
     
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    Keep in mind this isn't the first time she has pulled this stunt and claimed she was lied to.

    Lawmakers blocked from touring child migrant facility in Florida

    Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and US Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) were turned away from the US Department of Health and Human Services-run Homestead Temporary Shelter for Unaccompanied Children facility in Homestead, Florida, after the private operator hired to run the center said they could tour the facility, according to Nelson.

    https://nypost.com/2018/06/19/lawmakers-blocked-from-touring-child-migrant-facility-in-florida/
     
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    I don’t know what the rules are concerning on-sight inspections at the USPS Oversight Committee, but generally speaking, if your job is to oversee a location, facility, job-site, whatever, you have rights to show up whenever you want, without any need for advanced noticed (although it is typically given). At least, that’s the general rule within the private sector.
     
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    It shouldn't matter what Fauci said. He's not involved in voting, nor with USPS.

    There are numerous threads on this mail in topic. Trump supporters assure me that USPS employees will be handing out ballots like candy, but only to democrats. They will also be destroying votes coming from republican areas.

    I find that to be bunk, but that is the claim.

    So, I guess since we're all feeling warm-n-fuzzy about our patriotic post office employees, all cries about mail in voting should cease.
     
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    Well, the Congresswoman is claiming she only has to provide notice, and doesn't need permission. The experts in this thread say she's wrong, but they can't point to a process document proving that.

    So, I'll go with logic, that says someone in charge of oversight has authorization to oversee.
     
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    It’s a safe bet.
     
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    It's also the Congresswoman's claim. She doesn't need permission.
     
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    The time makes sense to me if someone wanted to see how the mail was being handled since 4AM is usually the time postal distribution center workers start their day. She wanted to see how many sorting machines were active. This whole thing is troubling to me.
     
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    Awesome!

    I am trying to support your cause here.
     
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    well sure, nobody is claiming they tgonna tell her no...actually the opposite they told her she could, but that there was not time prior to them finding out she wanted a tour.

    A Postal Facility is a large complex, with lots of moving parts, and quite busy....to accomandate a US Congresswoman's invividual tour takes t.....time and time from other things....they need more then a few hours notice
     
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    I have been in the Opa Locka distribution center and it's not the sort of place where one can stand around looking at things and asking questions, you can literally get run over, they literally tow carts of mail around with what resembles a golf cart, you will hear a couple of beeps on a horn and then need to get out of the way NOW.
     
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    So basically without the proper notice she could get hurt? The proper notice is for her safety
     
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    DWS behaving dishonestly? :omfg:

    Well that's a first...
     
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    Did she have a warrant?

    Is she the sheriff?

    Just more Democrat political games...
     
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    I guess that's why they didn't let her in - ounce of prevention.
     
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    A Democrat???

    Incossigle.
     
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    I see that. It's not a personal cause, really. I just find it odd that so many who previously claimed the USPS was filled with criminals who will help steal the election, are now claiming the USPS is filled with paragons of virtue who need no supervision whatsoever.

    It would be ridiculous for OSHA to call up a company and say, "Hey, we have reports of very serious safety violations. When is a good time for us to come out and check?"

    You don't schedule a surprise visit to see what's really going on when there are reports of shenanigans. She didn't want a grade-school type field trip tour. She wanted to see what happens when nobody is looking.
     
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    Awww. Isn't that special that they wanted to keep her safe? I was thinking they wanted to hide what was going on, but, nah, probably not that. From what I understand, the USPS is 100% above board.

    I look forward to seeing you in the "why we can't do mail in voting" threads. I thought you were against mail in voting, but clearly, you 100% trust the USPS, so you should have no issue.
     
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    Can you find one post or quote from someone saying it was full of criminals? I mean other then ole Debbie here claiming some sort of conspiracy

    Moreover, what safety violations? There have been reports of mail being backed out at some places...ok...that's been acknowledged. ...and being worked on...moreover the cost saving measures that were going to be put in place...that have been known to Congress since 2018, have been delayed until after the election

    If she is concerned for a tour...do it like she did last time...not shut and emial late afternoon, saying you'll be there at 4am....and expect the proper safety measures be put into place and personal to make sure she gets her tour.
     

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