Kamala Harris wishes everyone a happy Kwanzaa

Let's just agree to disagree here and leave it at that.

 

These two things are not like each other.

He ate a cheeseburger, so why is her sewing her own clothes a bad thing?

LMAO.

Also, you have no evidence she is lying. None. Zero. Zilch.

I've pointed to reasons she isn't lying. What do you say about those?

 

What is your proof she is lying? And what does Harris saying happy Kwanzaa have to do with Trump golfing? And what is the double standard you think is going on?

 

Agree that her story is plausible and unverifyable.

 

My bad, didn't mean to misspell it.

Exactly. Just different, and not something to be upset by or think is a burden.

 

I got an idea, how's about they open their math books and do some ****ing homework.

 

This is the nonsense we can expect from the right for the next four years. Trump and his merry band of criminals spent for years ripping this country apart with the full support of half the country, and not members of that half think we should care that she claimed to celebrate a holiday she may not have celebrated. Oh, the horror.

 

How about I throw your kid into a drug lord infested hell hole without quality guidance and see if he comes out shining like an millionaire. willing to risk it?

 

SPOILER: SHE ALMOST CERTAINLY DIDN’T. Pandering Kamala Harris Makes Dubious Claim She Celebrated Kwanzaa as a Kid.

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Kwanzaa was invented by a criminal madman two years after Harris was born. But she claims she celebrated it during her entire childhood.

The fake holiday was created by a conman-woman abuser in 1966. It was invented by activist Maulana Karenga. Karenga has a violent, racist criminal record, and was convicted of torturing his victims.

Karenga invented the holiday in 1966 the same year he was convicted of the assault and the sexual torture of several women. He served several years in prison for the crime which prepped him marvelously to become an associate professor and chairperson of the black studies department for California State University at Long Beach.

 

Who made it a drug infested hell hole?

 

If what I perceived was his point then it was not a point made well.

 

I am not a fan of either Kwanza or Kamalka. You are incorrect that the Marimba Marenega guy "invented " Kwanza. Kwanza is or was a real harvest hoiliday in Africa. Your Marenga guy introduced Kwanza to the US for Afro-Americans supposedly for Afro- Americans to have some connection with their roots in Africa. I do not believe that Marengo Marimba being a criminal if he really was one had anything to do with his introducing Kwanza to AFRO- Americans. So why do people such as you find a need to introduce BS on steroids just to trash something such as Kwanza. As I said I am not a fan of Kwanzaa but I am not going to make up Schiest about Kwanza when the truth is enough to invalidate it as a "holiday" for Americans albiet Afro Americans. Again Meranga Marimba did not "invent" Kwanza he just stole it from Africa and his being a criminal or not a criminal had nothing to do with Kwanza.

 

Got it. This is your gut feeling. You're basing an awful lot of hatred on a gut feeling.

 

In America ,especially when she was young... she would have been considered black. I could be mistaken but I also heard she grew up attending a black baptist church. It’s a cultural celebration that she can identify with. I’m not overly fond of her at all but I doubt she’s lying.

 

Oh, she most assuredly is lying, generally a safe bet with her. Sometime google her record as a prosecutor, she is probably the most corrupt prosecutors that CA has ever produced. Her actions, were they not in the official court record, would quickly be dismissed as unbelievable they are so far from the norm of understood right and wrong.

The fake holiday was created by a conman-woman abuser in 1966 in the L.A. area, invented by Maulana Karenga, the same year that he was convicted of sexually torturing his female victims. Harris was born in 1964 and lived for several years in Berkeley, California. Karenga, after serving several years in prison for the crime became an associate professor and chairperson of the black studies department for California State University at Long Beach.

The fake holiday didn’t even start reaching people until the 1970s after Karenga got out of prison and started teaching at CSU Long Beach and the holiday didn’t really seep into the black community’s mainstream until the early 1980s with the popularity of the holiday waning by the 1990s. It’s not celebrated in any other part of the world (including Africa). The name Kwanzaa comes from a phrase of Swahili origin, “Matunda Ya Kwanza,” and translates as “First Fruits of the Harvest.” Swahili has little relevance for American blacks. Most slaves were ripped from the shores of West Africa. Swahili is an East African tongue.

Harris’s father (black Caribbean) and mother (Indian) divorced in 1971 in 1976 Harris moved with her mother to Canada.

So to believe her claim, we have to believe that her family immediately began celebrating Kwanzaa in 1966 when it was invented and then kept celebrating it even though a mere nine years later, she lived in Canada with a mother who is not black and has no real connection to black culture? And all the while, the holiday had not yet even begun to seep into the black culture for half a dozen more years after that.

It's a safe bet that this is yet another of Harris' flat-out lies.

 

I liked you post because you stated you point well and included some interesting tidbits from personal connections. I have no problem with your description that Kwanzaa is a combination of various celebration because that sounds logical. So it was artificially combined into one "celebration" for Afro-Americans. Those is my thought - whoever formalized Kwanzaa did it to give Afro-American a sense of connection with Africa. Before DNA Genome testing Blacks whose ancestors came here as slaves did not know for sure what parts of Africa they came from. Therefore I can understand why someone created a conglomeration of African celebrations into an artificial holiday.

We of European source celebrate Christmas which we all know Christ according to Christian beliefs was born and lived in the MiddleEast Israel.
Yet we celebrate Christmas with borrowed traditions. The Christmas tree has Northern Germanic roots that predate Christianity. The legend of Saint Nikolas begat Santa Clause but Santa is different in each country. We Americans conglomerates St Nick into Santa .

There are different traditions about caroling in different countries. Where my parents came from the tradition was to go house to house caroling and the host/ hostess offers alchoholic drinks to carolers. That tradition was brought here by our ethnic group and when I was teen I went Christmas caroling. Some people actually did give up drinks albeit illegally. Each ethnic group from Europe and the British isles brought their Christmas Eve traditions. Our family is intermarried with various ethnic groups including non Christians so we have evolved a Christmas "tradition" that is artificial yes but it reflects a variety of traditions including Khanukah.


So I believe that I evolved in my opposition to Kwanzaa and say to each his own. You post makes sense.

Happy New Year!

 

I think "hatred" is a bit strong considering I just quoted myself saying I think this thing is a pretty minor issue to start with and no one really cares what she did as a kid. If this IS some kinda issue, it's on the level half a dozen magnitudes below Watergate where it wasn't really the crime that got Nixon but the lying about the crime. I don't believe her story. @Zorro a couple posts above neatly articulated why her story makes no sense. I think she needn't have lied about something she didn't need to, she has done this before and told stories before and her past behavior indicates this is going on now - and will in the future. Case closed. By the way - do you want me to start ascribing what YOUR emotions are in your posts?

Now I will admit she IS hated in California, and pretty much always has been. @Nightmare515 can tell you why since I have a vague feeling I could post links from LW sites and you wouldn't see it. That's okay. But the hatred of Kamalla started well before this story hit and she's earned every bit of it. I am still amazed that Bid chose her as a running mate - I still think out of the whole lot of 'em running for the nom, only Chieftess Lies with Forked Tongue woulda been worse. I'll also admit - given the last four years - it's gonna be fun making fun of our new Ruling Classes. I like doing that. You should see me at work discussing the District Office and beyond.

By the same token, you're also giving her a whole lot of credit based on your own gut feeling and I'm telling you she hasn't earned that credit. This is why I said "hey, let's agree to disagree" and drop it. The only way she can verify this story as nonsense is to post pix of these great generational kwanzaa family meet-and-greets. I'll admit I was wrong if she does - hey, I never said I walked on water on the way to the keyboard. I could be an outlier but when my mom died three years ago I ended up with a jillion photo albums and I have tons of pix of my great-grandparents celebrating Christmas decades before I was born and only the names and years written on the photos allow me to know who, when, and what was going on. But until then neither you nor I have proof she is telling the truth or lying. Again, fair enough. The sub-forum does say "Political opinions and beliefs"

 

This gets my nomination for post of the year.

 

The expoitation/oppression class, that earned its fortune from the sweat of oppressed, exploited blacks in a third world country, is now suddenly down with the blacks of the exploited/oppressed class in a first world country.

Cant make this **** up

 

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