Moonglow said: ↑ Abortion was never against the law until the 1880's when the AMA decided to monopolize all healthcare at for profit organizations. That doesn't mean it didn't happen...
Ironic that those opposing government interference in ones right to abort would also deny her the right to defend herself from a rapist with a gun.
NO one is obligated to use birth control...and NOT using it is not A CRIME TO BE PUNISHED BY FORCED GESTATION Uh, you keep saying ow you don't like this topic....so why are you here discussing it????? Yes, it's always good to push Anti-Choicers who are two-faced about abortion. They say they make an exception if the woman is raped....BUT NEVER say why.....
What building? Where was it? Got an address? Got proof Democrats were killed there? Why didn't you call the police ? Millions died there and you didn't report it? That's a crime... is something you seem not to approve of.....very strange..
So? An abortion due to rape and an abortion due to consensual sex are EXACTLY the SAME with the SAME outcome. You think because a woman had a crime committed against her she is free to commit MURDER!!!!!!!
FoxHastings said: ↑ So? An abortion due to rape and an abortion due to consensual sex are EXACTLY the SAME with the SAME outcome. You think because a woman had a crime committed against her she is free to commit MURDER!!!!!!! Do you think because a woman had a crime committed against her she is free to commit MURDER ? That is what you claimed.... DO you understand the following ?: An abortion due to rape and an abortion due to consensual sex are EXACTLY the SAME with the SAME outcome.
It you say you are protecting life because the fetus is “innocent” but then say it can be aborted under certain circumstances then the life of the child was never the issue, it was controlling a woman or punishing a woman for having what so many pro-birth advocates are lacking, sexual intercourse.
They are two entirely separate questions and I never understood why Conservatives so often bring this cringey parallel to the table yelling "gotcha!" Anyhow, I am pro-abortion and pro-gun rights.
Lol - ask democrats who want laws to ban guns. "And how exactly will this stop people from having guns?" We can't totally eliminate abortion any more than we can't eliminate murder or theft. But, laws serves to deter.
So? So wealthy women will still be able to get abortions any time they want but poorer women may not so end up poorer ...so righties can denigrate them for being poor.....and righties won't disturb their God, The Wealthy.......great plan...
I am not a conservative and the reason I bring it up is to show that neither position is one from a concern for human life or bodily autonomy. I don't think you meant to say you were pro-abortion. No one is pushing people to have abortions! It looks like you and I agree on opposing government interference in our lives. I support gun rights for gay married couples!
Good. Abortion is very much related to the concern for human life and bodily autonomy. Since the umwillingly pregnant woman is the only human life involved in abortion and since the fetus infringes on her bodily autonomy by living inside and of her, abortion is an inalienable moral right as she needs the abortion to live the life she wants. I did indeed mean to ssy I am pro-abortion. Of course, I would prefer the label pro-life, but sadly thay label has been hijacked by those who are actually anti-life and the label pro-choice is a stupid one I do not like and neither am I too fond of the Pro-Choice-movement as I regard their case as weak and lacking. Abortion is good. I guess we do. Lol, who was it that said that again?
So? An abortion due to rape and an abortion due to consensual sex are EXACTLY the SAME with the SAME outcome. You think because a woman had a crime committed against her she is free to commit MURDER!!!!!!!
Wow, sounds off-topic! Why are you trying to derail the subject of this thread? Yeah, just throw in the issue of rape into every single abortion thread, it seems...
Yeah, off-topic. You people don't seem to be able to comprehend what on-topic actually means. This thread is posted in the subsection of this forum that is about abortion, but this specific thread is not about abortion in general. Is there some reason you think bringing up the controversial and complex issue of abortion in the case of rape is an appropriate fit for a thread that is about the Supreme Court as it relates to abortion? Do you think the Supreme Court is going to weigh in specifically on the issue of abortion in the case of rape? Is that why you brought up this issue?
Yeah, well, everything affects everything else. But going on that logic, I don't think it would be possible to have a coherent discussion about anything. I mean, should we bring up every single last pro-life issue too in this thread? Because you know, they're all connected.
nope, you may not want to admit that anti-abortion laws would affect rape victims, but they will I think people need to be reminded that these anti-abortion laws will force rape victims to have their rapists babies
Um, nope. You're just trying to change the topic. Go talk about it in a different thread. If you want to provide a link to that thread in this thread, that's fine. But don't derail this thread, please.
Yup, those Anti-Choicers find that "raped and impregnated" issue a real stumper....want to avoid it at all costs... I won't let that happen
