Major Supreme court development

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if the courts force rape victims to have their rapists babies, that is big government doing the forcing
     
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    If they're stacked they are...

    Government has to follow what the court says...
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said Trump was a dictator wannabe... he failed at that too, Trump fails at most things he does
     
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    Why?
     
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    And what is the maternal mortality rate in those countries?
    https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12905-018-0705-y
    https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/preventing-unsafe-abortion

    https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1016/S0020-7292(98)00194-5

    https://www.americanprogress.org/is...ss-contributes-poor-maternal-health-outcomes/

    This is not hypothetical it is happening NOW. Maternal mortality increases when abortion access decreases.

    And consider - how desperate do you have to be to go to a backyard abortionist knowing that you will possibly die - in agony?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not the topic. The topic is the major supreme court development.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fruits of crime should not harm the victims.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you withdraw your claim Trump was a dictator.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Government and Courts are at odds.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If courts force Martians to bear their children, that is also big government.

    Democrats love big government. Biden is proof of that.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not supporting that.
     
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    Which if it overturns r v w will cause an increase in maternal mortality. It is already happening in those states that have restricted abortions. In other words abortion law does very very little to reduce the number of abortions. Those that can afford to do so will simply drive across state borders and get an abortion in a state that allows abortion, others will access abortifacients from the internet and have thier unsupervised abortions at home still more will seek out backyard abortionists like Gosnell in Philadelphia where cats were apparently roaming everywhere. Gosnell was operating outside the law as there was no oversight of his clinic - and women died
     
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    Sorry but you are the one forcing women to bear children
     
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    I did not say he was, I said he was a wannabe dictator
     
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    if government can force you to have children, they can also force you to not, that is the flip side of the coin
     
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    so you won't support anything that bans all abortions, good to know

    why do you support some abortions?
     
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    Show where I have created law.
     
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    Uh, so if a woman gets pregnant due to rape then having an abortion ISN'T "murder"" (as Anti-Choicers claim)???


    WHY? HOW is it different?

    The procedure and outcome of an abortion are exactly the same whether the sex was consensual or not...
     
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    Bowerbird said:
    Sorry but you are the one forcing women to bear children


    OH, my, wasn't that just so cute...cutest DODGE I've seen in awhile...aren't you the clever one...

    The poster never said you created laws but you support laws forcing women to bear children...
     
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    NO government gets BIGGER than a government that takes away the basic human right of bodily autonomy making it's citizens slaves.
     
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    I believe I once told you to make a law that pleases you but I was told it was not needed.
    I was posting to two forums and admit it might be I told some that on the other forum.
     
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    Which laws do that?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well if you want women to bear rapists children, I can't prevent you holding that belief.
     
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    That shouldn't stop you from addressing :

    FoxHastings said:
    NO government gets BIGGER than a government that takes away the basic human right of bodily autonomy making it's citizens slaves.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Bowerbird said:
    Sorry but you are the one forcing women to bear children




    OH, my, wasn't that just so cute...cutest DODGE I've seen in awhile...aren't you the clever one...

    The poster never said you created laws but you support laws forcing women to bear children...



    Why are you pretending to not know what we're talking about? Or act like you've never heard of anti-abortion laws...???

    It sure looks like you are DODGING once again....
     
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