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Right...the purpose of the fort (and others like it) was to protect the United States from attacks such as the British had mounted in the War of 1812. They were expensive to build and maintain. South Carolina willingly ceded both the land and expense of maintaining the forts to the federal government.

 

That was not an option. As soon as they did that, they were in rebellion. The correct (and peaceful) way to leaving the Union would have been through an amendment to the Constitution.

 

fake news, jan 6th was to stop the certification, thus trying to reverse the election, that is common sense

why they were chanting to hang Pence

 

Okay, I take your point.

 

It was an option, as was accurately stated and explained previously.

 

It was within their national borders and federal troops had been there at the pleasure of the state while it was part of United States and when SC left the union that small piece of land was under international law theirs. It was unoccupied and under negotiation for it's disposition. THEN the Union engaged in an act of war and against the agreement they had while negotiating and occupied for the purpose of being able to blockade the port. Lincoln tried to sent his navy through those waters to reinforce and resupply, an act of war.

The Confederate States NEVER wanted war with the Union....never wanted to invade the United States and take over the government......NEVER. They wanted a peaceful coexistence with their neighbor and continued trade relations. It was LINCOLN who invaded the South and started the war.

"With war clouds hanging heavy over Washington in early April 1861 and the budding Confederate States of America a reality, Union General-in-Chief Winfield Scott developed a plan for the execution of the onrushing war. Scott’s concept, later dubbed the Anaconda Plan, consisted of the blockade of the Southern seaports and control of the Mississippi River. This, he believed, would strangle the South by preventing it from exporting its crops for currency, preclude its receiving needed supplies and weapons to support its war effort, and isolate the western from the eastern sections of the Confederacy.

Lincoln was aware that the blockading of ports was an act of war. In fact, since an act of war is, by implication, taken against another state, some in his cabinet argued that a blockade would constitute a tacit recognition of the sovereignty of the Confederacy, something the North wanted to avoid. Lincoln was less interested in the legal definitions than in the military utility of the plan, and he approved it despite the objections.

On Friday, April 12, 1861, Confederate forces opened fire on Fort Sumter in Charleston harbor,"
https://www.raabcollection.com/abraham-lincoln-autograph/north-and-south-declarations-war

 

Lincoln was a war criminal.

 

AFTER Union troops and Lincoln engaged in an act of war.

 

The Confederate states NEVER had a desire to overthrow the United States Government or invade the United States and nothing in the Constitution bound them to remain.

 

They had no national borders. They gave those up when they ratified the Constitution. And, there was no way for them to legally leave the Union other than through Constitutional amendment. By firing on Fort Sumter they were committing a crime. There was no act of war...only the suppression of a rebellion.

 

The sovereignty of South Carolina no longer existed independent of the United States, barring an amendment to the Constitution.

 

So, a report from the FBI is fake news? How desperate, you probably think the Mueller report is fake news since it concluded there was no Trump/Russia collusion.

 

Yes, throw his sorry ass in jail for threatening an officer.

 

what is fake news is the rights interpretation of what the FBI said

 

They were no longer a part of the United States and States retain sovereignty under the Constitution, it was why they still existed after the Constitution was ratified a union of STATES. An agreement between STATES.

The fact remains it was Lincoln who wanted a war and he started one with his actions at Fort Sumpter sending a fleet and occupying the island and then invading Virginia. The Confederacy NEVER wanted a war.

 

Hahaha...they started one. And, it was basically over their right to what they considered their "property"...slaves. They could retain their sovereignty only as part of the United States, unless by an amendment to the Constitution. The Confederacy lost on the battlefield as well as subsequently in the Supreme Court. You want to try again? Go ahead. You'll get the same result.

 

It was about they no longer wanted to be a part of the Union, Lincoln went to war to force them back in with their slavery intact. The Confederate states never wanted war, that was Lincoln.

 

Why didn't they want to be a part of the Union?

 

Not the issue here. The fact remains the Confederacy did NOT want a war, Lincoln did and he started it first St Fort Sumter then at Bull Run when he invaded the Confederacy with the intent of taking downbm it's government and occupying. Southerns defended their homes, families, farms, businesses, schools, churches, livestock and crops from and army hellbent on it's total destruction.

 

The issue here is whatever we make it. Lincoln, constitutionally, responded to the Confederate violence at Fort Sumter, to suppress a rebellion. The Battle of Bull Run (lost by the Union) was a result of a failed Union military strategy to seize the capital of the criminal confederacy, in Richmond. And, the underlying reason for being for the Confederacy was the preservation of slavery.

 

No the issue is the Confederacy did not want a war and Lincoln started one with his act of war in Charleston and then invading the South. There didn't have to be a war. And no the first Bull Run was not about trying to capture Richmond it was to seize the heights in Arlington so the Confederates could not set up artillery there which could fire directly onto Washington. It was a preempted invasion of the Confederate States of America after his failed attempted to blockade Charleston harbor.