Teacher Fired for not acknowledging her cat 'Meowing' Student

I don't disagree with anything you've said. But I maintain that a teacher - an adult - belittling and making fun of a student in front of their classmates is out of line.

 

No. You don't want to understand what white privilege is.

 

You are probably saying that because you have no explanation. Let's hear it! I'm still waiting for my white privelege check in the mail by the way.

 

Weird. Clearly the kid is in need of counseling. And by enabling the kid, the administrators are contributing to his/her illness. This is child abuse. Not to mention disrupting the class and encouraging similar nonsense. But to go so far as to dismiss a substitute Teacher for not participating in their nonsensical straining of credulity, is evidence that the insanity has enveloped the Administrators as well. That's what happens when you play with fire.

 

If she were actually fired (and I'm not even sure "fired" is the right word for substitute teachers) solely for refusing to indulge, then I absolutely agree. But we don't know whether of not that's what happened, and she admitted to going further than that and ridiculing the student in front of the class. That's probably why she was actually fired, if this story ends up being true. Adults should be able to find something between outright indulgence and public ridicule.

 

MORE pure unadulterated bullshit from the right wing, no indication where or when this supposedly took place????????

 

There is no such thing as "white privilege". It is an allegation born from envy and jealousy wherever it be. It is part and parcel of Satans attempts to destroy our nation.

 

Then again, the Teacher didn't create the situation into which she arrived. IMO, her first instincts were correct, in that it is better to lose one than all for the cause of truth. Besides, what is a little targeted and poignant humiliation to the one to whom it belongs.

 

I can see the argument that (again, assuming this all happened as described) she was going with informed instincts and shouldn't have been fired for doing so. Then again, I think public humiliation should be used sparingly, if at all. And that's another big if. And I have no problem with a substitute teacher being fired for using public humiliation as a punishment.

There are people who deserve such humiliation, but there are also people who deserve a slap in the face. I don't think teachers should be doing either.

 

Satan isn't real.

White privilege is real.

 

Satan is real. He is the Father of lies. White privilege is a lie. One may as well declare ones own misery and hate as to accuse privilege or anything else of ones intended victims.

 

The side effects of firing this woman for making an example out of a unruly child is that you get more unruly children.

Children need discipline. Discipline sets social boundaries and expectations. She absolutely should have made an example out of the child through embarrassment or detention. But, thanks to shitty weak ass woke culture where nobody can be punished and everyone gets a participation trophy...you are going to get more unruly, uneducated children that will grow up with blue hair, collecting cats because they can't properly socialize because they've never been taught. End up on anti depressants and spend the rest of their lives wondering why everyone doesn't understand them.

This short story is a small example of a larger issue of which there is no great outcomes. The kid was being a brat. We punish bratty behavior. If we don't, we get more bratty behavior. That's just the reality as to where this goes. Like it or not.

 

I didn't see anything in the tape that qualified as such. I wouldn't approve of that being done inappropriately.

 

Just keep pounding the sand.

 

Sure I do.

White privilege is where I, a person of color, can explain away all my life's failing and piss poor choices to avoid taking responsibility for any of my faults!

That sound about right?

 

The side effect of bullying one of your charges is 1) you lose your job, 2) you harm the development and ability to trust authority figures of the child.
Bullying is different from simple correction. She didn't correct him, she bullied him as the teacher. Definitely not cool.

Children do need discipline, and its their parents duty to lay it out. The kid could've been sent to the office if he'd been disruptive, but if you think making a noise other than 'present' or 'here' during roll call is disrupting the class and meriting detention, I sort of doubt you were anything but homeschooled. Particularly when a sub is in. Her reaction disrupted the class far more than this kid trying to new fish the sub.
She should've simply ignored the little girl asking her to meow back, and moved the **** on with teaching the class. At that point, if he'd started being disruptive she could've sent him.
That would be what a professional and responsible adult would do. Instead she made sarcastic comments and barked like a dog, like a ****.

The teacher was being a brat. We do indeed punish bratty behavior, hence why she got fired and is bitching about it like a ****ing Karen.

 

Maybe you should rewatch the tape. She herself admits she shouldn't have made the quips she did, that they were inappropriate but she just couldn't help herself.
When you narc on yourself like that, its hard to carry forward a wrongful termination claim.

 

I didn't watch for detail, could be so. However ludicrous conduct typically invites critical responses. At least it should; but in today's warped world we see situations where arsonists and looters are forgiven, but arresting violent people is condemned. Society is being conditioned to criticize anything that triggers a negative emotion, regardless of the logic or sanity involved. We are seeing the promotion of the idea that if nobody complains about what others do- no matter what they do- we will all be happy.

I don't want my kids (or at this point great grandkids) growing up in a world that devoid of values and self-respect.

 

She was free to simply ignore him rather than to make sarcastic and bullying quips at him and bark like a ****ing dog as he stormed out from embarrassment.
Let one's peers mock and belittle. You're an authority figure, that's not your function and in fact you harm your function by engaging in that behavior.

She was fired for being a ****, not for questioning if he was really a cat or for pointing out it was physically impossible for him to be a cat. She didn't correct the student, she bullied him. That's why she was fired.

Bullying from an authority figure towards children is not a 'value' and lacks 'self respect'. They're 8 yrs old, of course you can dunk on them their little brains barely grasp object permanence and basic cause and effect. Have some ****ing dignity. I don't join a kids karate league and go full Kramer ffs, I have dignity.

 

It's also a telegraphed self justification as a prelude to trespass.

 

Homeschooled? LOL. Hardly. I grew up in an era where teachers could cuff you upside the head. Drop loud books on your desk if you dozed off and yes, even belittled or embarrassed you if you were being a disruptive little ****.

And you know what? My generation somehow managed to survive and thrive. We came to respect the teacher and their authority as a result.

This generation of pampered delicate little special snowflakes and sensitive individuals are destined to be uneducated failures.

 

There's truth and untruth is the allegation of white privilege. In history, black Americans were indeed denied privilege. But we don't live back then- we live now. Now is what matters for the future, it is the place we go forward from, the path which leaves the undesireable or unjust issues of today to the history of tomorrow. Dragging those issue along, prolonging, even promoting them is a terrible idea.

America has had a black president and has black governors, mayors and police chiefs all over. Black doctors, black millionaires and billionaires, black scientists- and black/white marriages.
It would seem that black America is not so much denied privilege as it thinks that success is an element of privlege rather than the product of effort.

I've said before- color is only a symbol, and symbols identify something. Sometimes symbols are lies, for example putting on a fireman's hat does not make you a fireman. When it comes to color, it's behavior that makes the connection. For example if black dogs were responsible for the majority of dog bites, we would avoid and shun black dogs. If the color were white instead of black, we would avoid and shun white dogs.
The images we see of black people and the behavior/conduct of black people will influence their image, regardless of any law you can write.

The odds of a black person criminally assaulting a white person are 42 times greater than the odds of a white person criminally assaulting a black person. 42 times??? Yes, 42; Federal justice stats verify that.
There is a long list of behavioral statistics that show us that the black community as a whole has similar problems in a wide range of social issues.
That will impact what may be seen as "privilege".... but it's more the impact of the conduct that exempts you from the norm. That is something that is created by the actions of the community, and it can only be changed by the actions of that community. While it is individually unfair to the good people in that community, it's also the product of the overall community that they are part of and they alone can change.
I keep waiting for some of the most respected to speak out and acknowledge this condition and call for that change- instead of denying it exists or pretending it shouldn't matter. .

 

Ah you were from a generation where casual child abuse by strangers was funded by the state.
Your generation raised the generations whose practices you complain of.
Did you ever consider that the way you "taught" your children left a mark on them that they are swinging hard the opposite direction, pendulum style?
This is why you leave discipline of that nature to parents, and leave teachers out of it.
She was perfectly capable of correcting the child without teaching the entire class to be ****s like her.

 

I understand what you are saying, and I have no problem saying such teacher misconduct happens frequently. I do have a problem saying that the child's behavior is not relevant to the situation. Teachers face a very difficult challenge, and a lot of stress- most of which comes from school boards who are often politicians without kids, and from parents who have no idea what a parent is supposed to be doing, and often don't care. This in part because of our culture of dumping the responsibility for our own behavior on others- by that, I mean irresponsible parents expecting teachers to turn their kids into functional adults despite what they have learned from poor parenting. In some of the best-performing educational systems in the world, parents understand that parenting is the job of building strong adults, and teachers are given wide authority and a great deal of respect. In Finland for example, teachers and doctors are seen in similar levels of respect- and compensation. Parents bring teachers gifts, and thank them for their efforts. The result- Finland is number one in student skills, where America is about 26th. In America, if you look at private schools you would see far higher performance results and far more advanced personal development that we have in public schools. I had a grand daughter in such a school- and the difference is absolutely shocking. One of the key reasons is that a private school has the power to maintain order; attending is an expensive privilege rather than a public requirement. Disruptive behavior is not tolerated, and the kids benefit greatly from that. Thus- we handicap American children, who will have to compete with better qualified people around the world. To me- that tells me our priorities are inverted, and we do them a great dis-service.

 

No, I’m sure plenty of that is your fault.