Taliban will not be allowing girls in Afghanistan to go to college

Biden, and his sucky policy. Isn't that what you really wanted to write but were just too afraid of getting razzed over at the talking points social?
Defend Biden here. He's your guy. Are you just going to ignore his failures then?

 

Many have said the same thing about welfare in this country.... except we haven't exited that yet...

 

Wait!! Let me get this straight.

The Taliban reneged on a promise??

Holy ****!! I'm stunned.... I'm flabbergasted....

Only a really stupid person would make a long term deal with the Taliban. They are still bummed they didn't get to enjoy the amenities of Camp David....

 

I go by what the religion itself says it is, not by those who want to pervert it or to slander it to support their agendas.

 

Sometimes I just have to shake my head in bewilderment at the jawdropping rush to turn EVERY thread possible into yet another childish, fingerpointing, grossly pretzeled diatribe against "the opposition" by using whatifs and guesses and probablies.
The thread is actually about the deplorable situation tens of thousands of WOMEN are subjected to, a life of relative ignorance, second class sexist consideration and the inability to ever become anything more than totally isolated, voiceless, powerless housemaids and childbearers.
Complete wastes of lives due to men who themselves live in the dark ages.
However that war ended it would mean a return to the sovereign decision making no one can change from outside. Especially the USA with whom Afghanistan had just been fighting and before that, the Russians. The Taliban had been waiting for 30 years for its country back. I doubt whether ANYONE could have directed its future with any assurance beyond a handshake.

 

Biden handled the withdrawal so well, Trump was upset he was not getting enough credit

"Trump complained on a radio show that the media spent 'all night' Sunday covering the devastation wrought by Hurricane Ida instead of his 'great agreement' with the Taliban"

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-complained-media-spent-weekend-covering-hurricane-ida-2021-8

 

What do you mean by "what the religion itself says"? Are you talking about what the Koran says? Some particular religious authority? Encyclopedia Britannica?

 

Oh FFS man. Biden didn't abandon Afghanistan, TRUMP signed the withdrawal agreement.

And YES, we should be out of Afghanistan.

 

if you missed the point, sorry

 

That's a lie. There were people falling from airplanes and getting crushed to death in the landing gear. That doesn't gel with any definition of "handled well" known to man.

This is NOT handling it well:

 

what did we get out of Trump deal with the Taliban, anything?

 

it went so well you had to clip my post, why?

I posted the truth, can ignore it if you want

 

I clipped to the portion I was responding to. There was no need to repeat the rest of the bullshit.

 

Divisive partisan BS and the exact problem with lefties in America.

 

If your not intelligent enough to know the following then just stay out of the conversation instead of Trump Trump Trump.

The agreement had items that had to be met
If those things were broken the deal was off
The Taliban did not meet the requirements of the original deal under Biden
Biden then nixed the original date killing the deal
Biden then decided to leave without letting anyone know

Now if your just a divisive partisan carry on with your Trump Trump Trump

 

Troops could have been quickly put back in at any time if things were not going well.
You know, like if the Taliban was trying to totally overrun the existing Afghan government.

A clear message was sent (later, with Biden) that the US was not going to be interfering, which sent the signal to the Taliban that they had the green light.

The Afghan government begged for air support, but the US would not give it to them. That would have easily stopped the Taliban from marching out in the open to the capital.

 

If they don't belief that all they have to do is look up what happened at Yale this month.

 

If you're talking about the deal brokered under the Trump Administration, it was just a little bit more complicated than that. The Taliban accused the US (under the Biden Administration) of renegading on one of the terms of the deal. This has some partial truth.

But it's also true the Taliban used that as a pretext and seemed to be very anxious to break the deal and go on the attack again.

Still, the Biden Administration unwisely gave them the excuse to be able to claim the US broke its side of the deal, not them.


If you're talking about women's rights and education, technically the Taliban did not literally "promise" that, but their spokespeople and public relations campaign claimed that was what they would do.

They were obviously trying to promise anything and everything to make the US feel better about leaving the country.

 

Wait!! Let me get this straight.

The Taliban accused somebody else of reneging on a promise??

Holy ****!! I'm stunned.... I'm flabbergasted....

Dude... it's the Taliban... they're crazy religious zealots, not a government to be taken seriously...

 

They probably should not have been allowed to overrun the capital and completely take over the government.

Whether they could have been held at bay in just parts of the country and whether a peace agreement could have been maintained, I do not know.


You will notice that the political Left was not criticizing Trump's deal until AFTER Trump had already left office and after Biden decided not to send more troops in (or provide air support) but rather to just quickly get out of there.

 

I think Trump would probably have sent back in additional troops if he saw that the Taliban was about to overrun the capital, or at least would have provided air support for the Afghan government. He probably would not have had what US forced were there leave so suddenly either.

It would have been a somewhat politically difficult decision for any President to make, however.

The US had troops stationed in bases in surrounding nearby countries that could quickly have been moved in within a few days, had the US wanted to put troops back. There were also a small number of US troops in Afghanistan at the time that could have slowed the Taliban advance, if they had been ordered to.

 

Odd, considering you can't even define what a woman is.

 

Dishonest questions. And now dishonest statement.

 

This is so awful. Women have had to fight for every right, every step of the way, all over the world.

The Iranian women lost their right to decide their own wardrobe In the early 80s. Some women in the ME don’t even understand the concept of rights.

Education is power. Take away the education to keep them enslaved. This makes me sad. FGM will be off the charts, now. How awful to believe women should never experience a single moment of joy.

That said, I 100% supported Trump’s decision to pull out. It’s one of the very few things he got right. I support Biden’s decision to follow Trump’s lead on that.

Nobody can help someone who doesn’t want to help themselves. They had 20 years of help and opted out.

 

A woman is any person who freely says they are one. Conservatives want to use gender roles as they do most societal constructs, as tools to oppress people