Taliban will not be allowing girls in Afghanistan to go to college

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    With all due respect; what ARE you talking about here?
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I do, I frequently let a coke sit before I drink it. Carbonation is bitter to me.
     
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    I respect your right to wear a mask and drink flat pop.
     
  4. kazenatsu

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    No, that's not my assumption. My assumption is that overall, refugees will be no different statistically than the societies they come from.

    Why would you say to one group of people "We're not going to help you. It is hopeless to help you", but then say to a random segment of those same people who decided to move to where you are "Now we are going to help you" ?

    I'm sorry but that just does not really make sense to me. Does it makes sense to you?

    How about another option, we just forcibly move people to Afghanistan until the problem goes away? Why wouldn't that work. Any thoughts? If it can work here, why not there?

    Look, we all know that if we took all the people in Poland and moved them to Afghanistan, and then moved all the people in Afghanistan to Poland, Poland would start having all the problems that Afghanistan currently has, and Afghanistan would suddenly become peaceful and tranquil.
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So now all the people who flee war-torn societies are fleeing them because those societies are terrible? And all the people who came here in the past because they were fleeing ethnic prejudice were coming here because they deserved that prejudice?

    If we had done what you suggest we do to immigrants to your ancestors you wouldn't be here now, do you ever think on that?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that we don't accept all people fleeing war-torn societies?
    You're being ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many people that would be?

    Heck, I can guarantee that overnight that would turn our societies into war-torn societies, if we really did do that.
    Just look at all those war-torn places in Africa and compare that to the population of your country, just for starters.

    Do you really, honestly think that if we tripled our country's population with random people from chronically war-torn areas, the country we are in would still remain peaceful just as before???

    Look, when the people are the problem, you don't ultimately solve problems by just moving people from one area to another.
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And how are the people the problem? Is everyone from a foreign country a thief and a rapist?
     
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    According to the UK Home Office, the answer is a resounding YES.
    And TBH this idea haunts most countries faced with migration demands. Migrants most usually have to raise to higher standards than the indigenous population .
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Can the UK Home Office offer any proof for this?
     
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    They call their policies one of being hostile to migrants.
    And just read up on the Home and Nationalities bill going through Parliament now. It is questionable whether it breaks international law.
     
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    Golly... so that's a no. Of course. So, given your thoughts here, what are you willing then, absent government, to do about it? Talking about it seems ineffective, unless you feel like this forum has the ear of some Taliban leader who will sympathetically be moved.. I doubt it. I suppose there are countless NGOs who you might find an adequate outlet for your service in attempting to change or modify what you see here. Try.
     
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    Trurmp is a private citizen these days. Biden has the chair. Do you support what he's doing or not?
     
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    Evidently so is life.
     
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    what Trump did is still what Trump did

    and Trump is planning to run for office in 2024
     
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    So you still haven't answered the question. Do you support what Biden is doing or not? Can't force yourself to write those words?
     
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    First, posting yet again about The Domestic Opposition which is of no earthly use in this case. Plus totally speculative and completely off topic.
    Afghanistan is a sovereign country. Therefore what its govt does is their business.
    However when they want tariff lifted , bank accounts freed and trade deals signed, other countries can exert pressure.
    Banging on about your domestic culture wars is pointless.
     
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    So, in typical fashion, the answer is, just wanna whine about it. Can't be bothered to actually do anything other than whine about it.
     
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    Its a great shame, but why do you think its our duty to force-feed our values to every crap hole on the planet?

    They didn't want that. They chose the Taliban. As soon as US made the deal with the Taliban, the Afghans made their own deals to turn the country over, and many of the folks who pretended to be on our side, and now Taliban.
     
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    Biden did not do this, the Taliban did, the ones Trump made his deal with

    Trump did not include the Afghans in the deal making, he left them out
     
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    Ok. Interesting deflection then. You blamed Trump but not Biden for what the Taliban are doing. This seems at the minimum intellectual dishonesty. Welcome to the spotlight.
     
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    Trump made the deal with the Taliban
     
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    Which the Taliban didn't honor, did they? Did they honor the agreement Biden made with them? You can't have it both ways here. Again, this is just another intellectually dishonest position. And the women of Afghanistan are paying for the actions of the current president, Biden, who allowed the Taliban to take over in the first place. Trump was no where to be found when Biden created the shytehole that he pulled out of.
     
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    Always :)
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    By no means. Indeed it is one of my main complaints with conservatives, that they seem so embittered and only happy when they are bashing one of the many many groups that appear to bedevil them; but then they follow a philosophy that I think would depress anyone, that life is not hard enough and we must make it harder on everyone, everywhere at any opportunity
     
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    I'm going with
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    Note the TDR failure in small print ;)
     
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