I told you guys a year or more ago Roe was doomed!

Your mistake is pretending abortion homicide is different in some significant way. It simply isn’t!

 

It appears you did not think your position through. I simply asked you a question and you continue to dodge it. Are you stumped?

 

Your failure to comprehend simple sentences is not my problem punkin!

 

Resorting to as hom fallacies only reveals ones inability to defend a position on merit. This is not about me. I gave you the benefit of being 100% right and having unlimited resources to enforce abortion bans. It appears you did not think your position through.

Heres and example to help: A girl with a strict religious family gets pregnant. She is determined to have an abortion and will not allow anyone to find out what she did. Please describe how laws combined with any resource you choose would prevent that abortion. Its just a discussion, relax!

 

Whhhoooo boy, bless your heart!
What does this have to do with whether or not abortion should be outlawed? The fact that some perpetrators will be able to conceal their crimes means the law has no merit?

 

Ah, you accidentally answered my question. There is no way to know who is pregnant. It is not possible to enforce what you can't see. The law has no benefit to society. It will simply keep the true number if abortions out of view. no different than closing ones eyes.

 

You continue to miss the point. Whether you can successfully prosecute 100% of the offenders has never been, and will never be, the deciding factor in whether or not a horrific act against another person should be legally permitted.

Have all murders been solved? Should we make murder legal because we can’t guarantee a 100% conviction rate?

 

Running to murder laws every time only reveals ones inability to think their position through. There are people with genuine concern that open their homes and adopt. One group provides free ultrasounds that allow the pregnant mother to heat their baby's heartbeat. I am all for convincing people to give life. There is no way to use government to force people. Feel free to come up with a plan. Its just a discussion on a forum, be creative.

 

your running away from accepting that abortion is a homicide is very telling. Until you accept the basic truth about abortion, your comments are just pre packaged political talking points.

Your comment concerning “giving life” is way off base. The child in utero has life, what we are talking about here is when is it ok to snuff out a life!

The plan is to make at will abortion illegal and spend the federal dollars we used to blow on financing the snuffing out of children’s lives to fund adoptions. Adoptions are ridiculously expensive and cumbersome as it stands right now.

I find it very telling ( and sad) that there is no such thing as a govt funded adoption, but there are plenty of govt funded abortions!

How can we claim to know there aren’t enough families willing to adopt when the cost of an adoption is out of the reach of many American families?

 

I already gave you credit for being 100% right on homicide. You are incorrect about government funded adoption. There are many benefits for adopting parents.

I agree with you that tax payers should not be forced to fund abortions.

 

I would take it a step further and say the govt should fund adoptions.

 

They do.

 

They do not!

 

https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/adoption/adopt-assistance/

 

Foster care only. Very limited and you have to go through a horrifically flawed foster care system that tries its best to send the child back to the parents who failed them! Believe me I know first hand! This is a hollow “ benefit”.

 

Some adoptive parents choose to go full time and bring in several children. Very few are returned to their birth parent.

I agree than its not much of a benefit. Im afraid that offering more incentives will attract the wrong people.

 

Offering abortion incentives encourages horrific behavior!

I don’t see how assisting with the fees would encourage the wrong people.

with the Foster system, there is an extreme bias toward reuniting with bio parents even when they are clearly unfit and a danger to the child!

 

I agree that incentives should not be offered and that tax payers should not be forced to pay for abortions. I also realize that crackheads are given numerous chances to have their parental rights restored. It is a frustrating and long process.

 

Kill them because they're mindless tissue, not beings. Kill them for the same reason you would avoid impregnating a woman who doesn't want a child, because the child doesn't exist yet and cannot be harmed, but will be harmed and be more likely to cause harm if allowed to come into existence.

 

Just 100% wrong! A human being is a human being from conception forward.

 

This happened because the courts have been politicized. The majority of Americans think there should be legal and safe access to abortion.

 

To keep women and girls safe. Enforcing anti abortion laws is going to lead to massive privacy violations and women and girls being prosecuted. In Poland a woman sought an abortion as means to escape a domestically violent relationship. She is now expected to be put on trial. As for protecting the lives and safety of women, that’s a major error on your part. A woman died in an Irish hospital because they wouldn’t preform an abortion. They refused an abortion because they could detect a fetal heartbeat, which led to them neglecting her safety and care. Its been happening in Poland. It will happen in America too now.


On February 27, 1879, a mysterious trunk was found floating in the Saugus River near Lynn Massachusetts. The trunk was discovered in shallow icy water, with a human hand protruding from its top. Inside was the mutilated body of a young woman. The woman's arms and legs were contorted to fit inside the trunk, and her nose was cut off in an attempt to prevent identification of the body. The trunk also contained two empty champagne bottles, and several bricks to sink the trunk to the bottom of the river. This incident was one of the most gruesome and tragic murders in greater Boston history. This sensational crime made national headlines, and was referred to as the Mystery Trunk murder case.

The man that found the trunk thought it was just a piece of wood floating in the river. He noticed the human hand, and retrieved the trunk from the water. A police investigation was quickly launched and an autopsy performed. The medical examiner determined that the young woman had died from an abortion. She had a large abdominal wound, and had died about two days earlier. Abortion was illegal in the state at that time, making the case even more sensational. It took three weeks to identify the body, which led to the Mystery Trunkreference.

 

The poster said “forced to carry.” His statement is accurate.

 

Is that where you actually stand? The law shouldn’t infringe in people’s rights, and that’s what is happening. We are telling raped 10 year olds to just have the rapists baby without care or concern for their psychological and mental health, without concern for her autonomy or will?

That’s screwed up. If life calls on a 10 year old girl to do such a thing, then I think every single man should be required to donate a kidney. It’s a major surgical produce that will change the way you live the rest of your life and it will be painful, but that’s the point.

 

So you’re going to enforce anti abortion laws by charging women and girls with murder and homicide?