Do most white leftists believe that Black people do not have IDs?

This is an interesting video. The reporter asks a bunch of white people if they think ID reqs for voting is racist, and many of them seem to think blacks don't have IDs and also seem to thinks blacks do not know how to use the internet
When he questions black people on this, they all seem to have IDs and just as much knowledge of using the internet
What say you?

NOTE: If anyone is triggered by the word LEFTIST in the title I will gladly change it if you can find ONE right winger in here that believes voter IDs are racist.

 

Yup...there are clearly some idiots who believe blacks don't have the ability to get an ID. I'm rather doubtful it would be 'most' who believe this crap. Just like I don't believe most righties believe the election was stolen. Point is....there are some morons on both sides of the political aisle.

 

Not only that, but democrats seem to believe that the black minority in the US are unable to figure out how to get and then use them. Just another example of their amazing pejorative elitism.

 

White Liberals are some of the most racist people out there. But it's not coming from a place of hate but rather a place of pity.

Shitty consolation prize regardless

 

It is my OPINION that most of their racism isn't the HATEFUL variety but more of the IGNORANT variety. Also by trying so hard not to be racist, they overreach and end up sounding racist (just my OPINION).
I saw a Candace Owens video once where she was visiting the white house (while Trump was pres) with a bunch of young black conservatives. She was in some interview and the white lefty asked her a question early in the interview, something along the lines of "how do you feel about the color in the the white house"? Those might have not been the exact words but it was close.
Later in the interview when candace said the left is comprised mostly of white racists (her words, not mine), she was questioned by the same white lefty reporter and asked to provide an example
She gave the example earlier of how if she was not black, she never would have asked her that question and instead would have just said "what do you think of the current administration and its policies"
The white lady went nuts after being called out! it was super entertaining but also sad

I also have a white liberal friend that was having a BBQ and a few black people were gonna be there. He was asking me if ti was racist to have watermelon. I told him no, there is nothing racist about a delicious, thirst quenching fruit.
Like I said, most of them mean well, but they over shoot, they over shoot BIGLY

 

It's not hard to be civil, I just choose to not be.

 

I don't think it matters what color the person is. Poorer or less mobile folks of any color, race, religion, age, etc may have a harder time getting an ID suitable for voting. I've certainly never limited these thoughts to just minorities since minorities don't have a monopoly on being poor or less mobile.

That's why I think we create a free "voting ID". It's free to a voter but only usable at your polling place. That solves both the concern from the left about cost and means and the concern from the right about security.

 

That explains A LOT! Thank you for your honesty. Also, you claim its so hard for them to vote. What are you doing to help them? Have you visited black neighborhoods and been like "hi black people, i'm gonna teach you how to get to the DMV now"
You know what they say about teaching a man to fish
Just sayin!

 

1) that would be too LOGICAL
2) that would give them one less reason to cry race card, and by "them", i mean WHITE left wing politicians

 

Kinda like they can't get on the internet too?

The fact is, the lefts pandering to their contrived victimization of blacks is the height of racism.

 

You questioned the liberal agenda.

They have no tolerance for that.

 

It's the soft bigotry of low expectations but I do not believe that is the real reason....

I believe the real reason that they're so dead set against voter ID as it makes committing voter fraud that much harder.

That's just the ostensible reason that they have to give. Never mind that it makes them look like bigots

 

I never really understood this. It is a perfect example of the left eating the breadcrumbs thrown out to them, without even thinking about questioning it. Their talking points are completely void of facts. I've seen a large number of these same types of videos.

 

Leftists believe African Americans have IDs, but illegal immigrants do not. Thus, they want to bypass the ID process so illegal immigrants can vote as well as their friends can vote in multiple states elections multiple times.

 

Putting aside the proactive question about what "white leftists" think, we can actually get data on the more relevant and objective questions "Are black people as likely to have IDs as often as white people?"

And the answer, objectively, is "no." The Government Accountability Office did a big long report for Congress on voter IDs back in 2014 and included 10 different studies from different states. (You can see the whole report here; the studies are summarized in Table 1, page 22). In every case (except possibly Pennsylvania) the percentage of black voters with IDs is smaller than the percentage of white voters with IDs. The difference is not enormous, but it is consistent across all the states examined and reflected in the national figures as well.

To provide just one example, at the national level:

That's a 15-20 point difference by race, which is non-trivial.

Does that mean that voter ID laws are "racist"? Maybe. "Racist" is an ambiguous term with many subjective definitions.

It DOES mean that voter ID laws will, objectively, place a greater proportionate burden on the black population than on the white population because a larger proportion of the black population will suddenly be forced to act in order to be eligible to vote.

Is a voting law that disproportionately effects one race over another "racist"? If so, well, there you go.

 

Yea, it's not, but it does make you feel better to say that.

 

There has been ZERO, ZIP, NADA reports in Alabama of people not being able to get ID's and being able to vote. First renewals can be done online and first time drivers are not old enough to vote. And the DMV is not the only place to get one the probate courts which are usually in the same building can issue them.

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That is leftist MSM propaganda that they think people will swallow hook line and sinker.

 

Do you think most people get a drivers license before they are old enough to vote? That is very white of you

 

Do you think drivers liscense is the only form of id?
Ever hear of a state ID?

 

You should try to do a better job of following the context of posts you quote.

 

Do you think a drivers license is the only form of valid ID ?

 

When somebody tries to pedal bullshit, one may wonder if they're stupid/ignorant or nefariously partisan. By saying "you knew that," they were assuming you were being nefarious rather than stupid/ignorant.

So in a way it's benefit of the doubt, at least regarding intelligence or being informed.... so you honestly thought liberals thought that black people were incapable of getting IDs? Or did you not get the nuance that they were simply more likely to not have IDs due to their situations, on average (e.g. more likely to live in an area with less access to a DMV, or less need for a driver's license).

I mean, don't take it too personally. I think you know you're partisan and that can also lead to ignorance (particularly regarding what the other side believes) due to how info comes to us via echo chambers.

 

I think if you were to ask just the leftists in this room, you would likely find that most would say something along the lines of " blacks as a percentage are less likely to have an ID than whites, and thus requiring an ID to vote is just a useless ploy aimed at excluding a greater percentage of blacks from voting". I do not believe that most Democrat voters on the street would say this, but in a room such as this that attracts the politically active that are well versed in their talking points, I do not think it is a stretch to say most or certainly close to most. This could accurately be titled the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.

As a side note, I can appreciate that as a person that most often sides with leftists you are willing to occasionally call out other leftists. With that being said, it seems to typically include some type of whataboutism where you compare it to something similar that you perceive the right to be doing and then you just say there are morons on both sides. When calling out a rightist however, I dont see the same trend where you then turn it around on the left. I am not sure if you title yourself a leftist or call yourself down the middle. If you call yourself a leftist, congrats on being willing to occassionally call out your side even with the accompanying whataboutism. If you call yourself down the middle, I call BS because of the aforementioned habit.

 

I got hit by an illegal running a stop sign full speed who didn't even slow down while working in California. Didn't have insurance or anything.

I think people should be made legal before giving them licenses or at least a green card or temporary card while they are waiting for process of becoming legalized.

Basically, you are enabling anyone to walk across the border and vote which helps one party disproportionally than the other.

 

A) the OP did not qualify that he was only talking about Leftist on this forum
B) If you've been truly paying paying attention I always tend to call out BOTH sides as I don't have a side. If you're going to lecture me you can at least try to pay better attention to my calling out both sides.