Marjorie Taylor Greene Makes Alarming Promise About Ukraine If GOP Wins Congress

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  1. The Ant

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    She is a sycophant of The Orange Stain…he’s even hinted at her being his running partner. Ergo, when she speaks, she’s usually parroting what The Stain wants..

    Now, McCarthy…? He’s already shown us how he bends like a grass stalk to whatever The Stain wants. And, with Green as his mouthpiece, McCarthy will fall into line…
     
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    Good, we need to stop funding such an obvious proxy war with Russia.
     
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    I'm not a Lib, but that ad is the most moronic thing I've seen since I saw the last underwhelming Trump rally. She whines in her high-pitched annoying accent about the DOJ being weaponised? Hello? Talk about upside down land. Trump was totally obvious about weaponsing it. That was okay with her, though. She's an idiot who blathers about Jewish space lasers and who harrasses victims of school shootings. She has the IQ of a slug. Enough about her....

    Let's talk about Europe and the UN. How do you think the UN and Europe aren't helping out about resisting the invasion of Ukraine? Not sure if either of them have weighed in about US elections, but if they've said US elections aren't free and fair, please provide proof of that. And if they have said that wouldn't the MAGA cult be excited about Europe and the UN agreeing with their Stop The Steal crap?
     
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    How can you say they don’t have a **** when apprehensions are UP under Biden? If they didn’t give a ****, apprehensions would be down or zero.
     
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    Yes you want to give Russia free rein to do anything.

    There used to be an American president who put Russian interests ahead of America. You sound a lot like him.
     
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    Nice straw man you get there.

    No, what I want is to stop being the world Police. Let some other countries

    step up instead of using our tax dollars. Stop being worried about a border on the other side of the world when you're not worried about our own.

    You sound just like some President we have that doesn't care about our own borders that cares more about the borders of another country
     
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    We need comprehensive immigration reform, including mandatory e-verify across all 50 States. And if Amnesty, it needs to be a prorated and limited amnesty, I've proposed a traffic light system approach for both regulating and fast tracking those who should become citizens, and those who pose a national and domestic security threat to our country.

    But the point isn't the border, the point is that Biden has bankrupted the country for his fight for democracy. What the Biden Administration teaches us is that it's okay to screw the country over, as long as your priorities align with those that elected you.
     
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    America's interests aren't in this bottomless pit, and to be blunt the bottomless pit isn't quite a pit. There are defense industrial partners and other lobbyists surely in the ear of the Biden WH who are financially benefiting from this.
     
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    McCarthy works for the donors, so I wouldn't worry.
     
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    I mostly agree with your comments. Since the beginning of the year I've been asking on this forum what is the US national security interest in engaging in a proxy war with Russia over Ukraine. No coherent replies on that part but a lot of Putin=Hitler (in the tradition of everyone I don't like is Hitler) and NATO=good/Russia=bad.

    Some of the responses have been in the vein of "Team America: World Police," as if the US was exactly the same hyperpower in 2022 as it was in 1992. It's as if all the lessons of GWOT; Iraq, and Afghanistan have faded away. Doubly surprising for Afghanistan since it hadn't even been a year since our rout there before we immediately swing to a new crusade, spending far more money per year in Ukraine than we ever spent in Afghanistan, and it's not even our war.

    I've really been puzzling over that particular issue. The establishment enthusiasm for war that isn't even ours far exceeds it's enthusiasm for wars in which actual American troops were fighting.

    Years ago, if someone had told me that the US peace movement would totally collapse and turn into a bunch of neo-cons, I would have laughed, but seeing in real life it's not at all funny. The Congressional push back on the war lasted about one day, when the progressive wing in the House sent a letter, were taken to the woodshed, and quickly disavowed their letter and vowed, "we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."

    Ladies and gentlemen, the Progressive wing.

    Even during the anti-German hysteria leading to World War I there was an anti war faction. This might be the first time in US history we're embroiled in conflict without one.
     
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    Why do you make things up ? Oh yeah…….

    Can you please explain how the Biden administration has captured over 2 MILLION illegal border crossers, almost 5x more than the Trump admin did, yet you still keep saying we have “open borders”?

    FTR, those who come to the border and claim “asylum” MUST be allowed to have their day in court, as that is the law. The same law in place when Trump was in office, and he did exactly that also. Biden TRIED to re-institute the “remain in Mexico” but the (conservative)SC struck that down.

    So again, please explain why you keep claiming “open borders” when that is a proven lie ?
     
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    Why do you repeatedly insult Donald Trump as the "Orange stain"? That says more about you than it ever does about him.
     
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    So border patrol are still doing their job.

    That in no way means this administration gives a **** about the border. They have not done a single thing to improve the border situation, it's done nothing but get worse since biden took over. It's the truth and voters know it.
     
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    STOP arguing technicalities. Open-borders is just a phrase used to describe the disaster that is our southern border right now. It's not meant to be taken literally. The border is a disaster....it doesn't matter what phrase you use to describe it.

    A lot more have been caught because a TON more are coming through. You get how that works right?

    And why did the remain in mexico policy end? Because Biden felt the need to undo everything trump did regardless of whether it was working or not. Politics took precedence over what was best for the country....job well done democrats.

    But by all means, please keep acting like the border is a non issue. Voters know it's a disaster whether you can admit it or not. Voters see it as an issue and democrats ignoring it is probably the best thing for our border as they can get voted out and people who actually give a **** about the country can get elected.
     
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    That's the massive power of the global media coupled with the ideology of the old GOP that still has a significant amount of power. The traditional GOP has historically been the pro-war Party who had zero issue with the US getting involved all over the place. Traditional Democrats weren't quite as enthusiastic but they weren't much better either. The mentality that Russia=bad has been hounded into their brains for decades and most of these folks grew up during the Cold War when Russia DID = bad. They're just living in the past.

    Then you have the global media bombarding the airwaves with Russia = evil, Putin=Hitler and that has convinced a lot of Progressives who view the mainstream media as gospel. Plus a lot of these folks are very...conformist and follow each other no matter what they do. So if one prominent Leftist puts a Ukraine flag in their Twitter profile then thousands of others will because that's just what they do. For them all it would take is a few prominent Leftist media personalities to stop supporting the war and the majority of the Progressive Left would drop their Ukrainian flag profiles by Monday morning. The old "Russia is evil and must be stopped at any cost" Congressional members living in the past will be much harder to convince.

    The majority of Americans don't even know why Russia invaded Ukraine, to them it's just "Putin wants to be Stalin and recreate the USSR and conquer Europe" because that's what the obviously bias western news media says. Granted I am no fan of Russia, I hope they get pummeled not because I have anything against them but mainly because I like America being the sole world power with the majority of the pull around the globe. But we shouldn't be footing the bill for this war. We have our own big problems to deal with over here as MTG said. Lets fix out own issues with these BILLIONS of dollars then maybe we can think about caring what happens to Eastern Europe.
     
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    Maybe the Taliban would let them borrow some of the billions of dollars worth of high tech weapons that Biden gave them.
     
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    I would imagine you're joking, right?
     
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    Joking about what? This administration arming and funding the Taliban or the Taliban loaning out some of those weapons?
     
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    No interest in following up on that?
     
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    Leftist fuzzy arithmatrick....
     
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    I see it as a victory, obsession tears are the most concentrated form of nourishment ;)
     
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    Sure, except I have a life that doesn't revolve around a message board.
    You used the term "high tech". You obviously haven't seen a listing of the equipment.
    The weapons we and others have been sending to Ukraine are light years above what we left with the Afghanistan army. Hate referring to them as an army after they rolled over like they did, but that was the intention.
     
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    For 2 simple reasons…

    I have no respect at all for him…

    He does indeed represent a stain on the US community…
     
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    Really, you mean because they are catching more, that means its a disaster ? Thats some 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon right there

    Please give us the numbers that are getting thru. Without that, you have nothing and you know it. Joe is capturing more that Trump ever did, but somehow for the right, that means its bad

    “Open Borders” is not “just a phrase” it is purposefully to infer that nobody is watching and anyone can cross at any time. Its beyond disingenuous, and is purposeful

    Again, without having the numbers that are successful in getting in without being caught, your claim means nothing. By your logic, I could say that more got thru under the Trump administration that have under the Biden administration. Right ?

    Your arguing something you are very ill informed to argue. Remain in Mexico was ended by the Supreme Court. Biden actually wanted to keep it.

    If the republicans really wanted to stop it, then they would codify that nobody can seek amnesty in the US without waiting in their own country for approval.

    Again, your arguing something you know nothing about and are getting your talking points from right wing news.

    Unless you can tell us how many people are getting thru, then you have no leg to stand on this debate. Biden is catching more, but to claim their are more trying would require the other side of the equation. Simple principals of math dictate that, not political bias
     
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    Sure.

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/off-d...-jima-flag-raising-in-latest-propaganda-push/

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