After a train derailment, Ohio residents are living the plot of a movie they helped make

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  1. Bluesguy

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    And what say you now? Brakes had nothing to do with it.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    Are you going to withdraw this statement of fact which has been proven to be false?
     
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    Oh FFS, how many times do you have to be told that…. YES there was a failure of a bearing, but the train could not stop fast enough to avoid the catastrophic failure from the failed bearing. Just stop man, your embarrassing yourself
     
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    NO. Its a FACT.

    Your don’t understand basic physics and your embarrassing yourself. Cause and EFFECT !!!!!
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    So you missed the NTSB reports that the brakes had nothing to do with it and that the pneumatic ones would have made no difference?
     
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    Well then quote the NTSB saying that.
     
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    Experts have stated that had the train been able to stop faster using the new brake technology, the disaster would have been far less serious. The new technology allows for each train car to brake earlier and more completely than the air pressure system currently in use.
     
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    As of Friday the NTSB have not determined the cause.

    Do you have a link to the report ?
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.....

    "crew TRIED to stop the train".........
     
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    Tried and couldn't with the fancy new technology. It's another Solyndra-level **** up. Why does this government, particularly when the left's in charge try these fancy, ridiculous ideas that make no sense and then by golly it ends up screwing us.
     
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    The preliminary report issued by the NTSB on February 23rd, 2023 indicated wheel bearing failure on car #23. When the train passed the third hot bearing detector (HBD) the bearing temperature on car #23 was 253°F above ambient.

    https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/RRD23MR005 East Palestine OH Prelim.pdf


    In addition, Jennifer Homendy, Chair of the NTSB, said ECP brakes wouldn’t have prevented the derailment. Of course, there will be more information available once the investigation is complete but the fact of wheel bearing failure will not change.

    Jennifer Homendy on CNN
     
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    There is a price to pay for electing an idiot mayor; for cheerleading corporate deregulation; for joining a Christian death cult; for pleading endless loyalty to a mentally ill tyrant; for using children as pawns to downplay the long predicted chemical catastrophe that the "woke" warned about.

    Reason is mocked as "woke" until the chemicals touch their skin, and now they demand truth.

    Would a woman in East Palestine, Ohio--and all the cities downwind--be able to get an abortion if the consequences of this willful malicious ignorance appear as prenatal birth defects due to dioxins? Of course not!

     
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    Tired what ? these were the same old brakes they always had ?
     
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    When a wheel bearing fails, how long, or how far does a train have to travel before a catastrophic failure of the axle occurs ?
     
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    Thats not what she said:

     
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    Actually, that's exactly what she said. You obviously didn't watch the video I linked. Also, below is the transcript of that conversation on 'The Lead with Jake Tapper' show on 2/23/2023.

    "TAPPER: And yet, even with the 20 cars with toxic materials, under current safety rules, that train still did not qualify for designation as a high hazard flammable train, which would have gotten it or required at least a newer, safer braking system. So that rule, as it stands right now, clearly was inadequate for the citizens of East Palestine.

    Why not add the newer braking system to any train carrying hazardous material, not just those with more than 20 cars of hazardous material?

    HOMENDY: Well, and the NTSB has looked at electronically controlled pneumatic braking for a number of years, and we did some testing as well. Certainly, it would improve safety. But for this investigation and for this derailment, ECP brakes would not have prevented the derailment. The wheel bearing failed on car number 23. Even with ECP brakes, the derailment would have occurred."

    The Lead with Jake Tapper on 2/23/2023
     
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    Yes, they don't seem to know brakes from bearings.

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    And they did after the axel failed and the other type of brakes would have made no difference.
     
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    The ECP brake rule wouldn't have applied to this train because it only had three class 3 flammable cars.

    The rule was rolled back by a congressional act that was passed in 2015.

    The NTSB says stop spreading misinformation...lol

    https://twitter.com/JenniferHomendy/status/1626379359375265792
     
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    I read the entire report, and it doesn't say anything about the brakes. It does show that the train went of 40 miles after the heat indicators first alerted to a problem….

    https://htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/files/ntsb-prelim-report-east-palestine-1677167554.pdf
     
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    So what your saying is that the republican controlled congress, and the Republican president and his NTSB allowed this to happen…..
     
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    Not in relation to the type of brakes.

    FFS man.
     

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