Donald Trump indicted on 7 counts in classified documents probe

While Donald Trump himself was not charged, the scheme benefited his family business by allowing the Trump Organization to avoid payroll taxes. In addition, prosecutors said the Trump Organization deducted Weisselberg's undeclared non-cash benefits from his paychecks, keeping a detailed leger of rent, utilities, and other living expenses covered by the company.

The indictment says Donald Trump personally wrote checks for private school tuition for Weisselberg's relatives, drawing on his own private bank account.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1117948260/allen-weisselberg-trump-employee-pleads-guilty-felony

Donald Trump was “explicitly sanctioning tax fraud” when he authorized salary reductions for top executives,

"Donald Trump is explicitly sanctioning tax fraud. That’s what this document shows," he told jurors on Friday, displaying a 2012 memo on Trump Corporation letterhead in which then-Trump Org CEO Donald Trump approved a salary reduction of $72,000 for the company’s chief operating officer, Matthew Calamari, to cover the rent on a Manhattan apartment paid for by the corporation. "This whole narrative that Donald Trump is blissfully ignorant is just not real,” the prosecutor said.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/15/nyregion/trump-organization-trial-weisselberg

 

No politician on the Left, has ever done what Trump did, with refusing to return government documents. I'm glad you believe in equal justice, because during Trump's administration, there were numerous people sentenced for unauthorized possession of government documents, & so forth. One of the shorter of those sentences was for someone named "Reality Winner." She copied a total of one document-- and it was about Russian interference in the 2016 election, so it was something the American people actually deserved to know about; it should not have been kept secret. Five years in prison, is what she served, for sharing this, with a member of the press. It in no way endangered national security, as could the documents which Trump had so long stored in completely unsecured locations, with public access to them.

There were numerous others.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...act-trump-willful-retention-prison/index.html

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Nghia Pho, 2017

Pho, who was a developer for the National Security Agency’s hacking unit, pleaded guilty in 2017 to one count of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision by taking classified documents and writings home from work over the course of roughly five years – for the purpose, Pho said, of getting extra work done on nights and weekends, as The New York Times has reported. Russian hackers are believed to have stolen important classified material from Pho after he took it home, but he was not charged with spying or deliberately giving the material to anyone. He was sentenced in 2018 to 5.5 years in prison.
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Another person pleading guilty to only one count of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision (though he had taken many more documents), from both his time in the Navy, and then as a defense contractor, was Weldon Marshall, in 2018. He received a sentence of 41 months.

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Harold Martin, 2019

Martin, who was a contractor for the National Security Agency, pleaded guilty in 2019 to one count of violating the willful retention of national defense information provision after he was indicted in 2017 for possessing, in his home and car, a massive quantity of classified material he had taken from work over the course of more than 15 years; he had been charged with 20 counts for 20 particular documents identified in the indictment. Martin was not charged with spying or giving the documents to anyone, and his lawyer portrayed him as a “compulsive hoarder.” He was sentenced in 2019 to 9 years in prison.
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But then, in 2020, we have someone else faring much better, in his plea to a single count, so perhaps those who've said that Trump should have taken a plea deal, were right-- instead of his potentially being found guilty of 31 violations of the Espionage Act. Ahmedelhadi Yassin Serageldin, who worked for Raytheon (and who "had more than 570 documents marked as classified at his home, including some regarding US missile defense, and had altered or removed the classification markings on about 50 documents") was not charged with spying or transmitting the information to anyone, and received only 18 months in prison.

 

Say it again.

 

O'Donnell hit the winning guest "Trifecta"

'MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell is joined by former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal, and national security attorney Bradley Moss to discuss Donald Trump’s latest comments about the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation including comments that could interpreted as a confession.'

 

Just what we need: fewer trials and more talking heads on TV telling us what juries might do.

You don't actually waste your time on this kind of thing, do you?

 

I certainly don't waste my time replying to the contents in a video with claims about a subject that was never mentioned.
"juries" lol.

 

The case is headed for a jury trial, and it will decide what happens, not Laurence O'Donnell or his trifecta of opinionated liberal blowhards, so you're "LOL"-ing at something that isn't even mildly humorous.

But do enjoy the program if you really have nothing better to do. I am sure it will be totally fair.

 

Trump is a walking, talking, tragicomedy and with that comes laughter.

Keep defending the blithering idiot Trump as he digs that hole he's in deeper and deeper.
None of the 3 great legal minds claimed to know what will happen at trial with evidence Jack Smith wants to enter.
You're just too used to Trump's inept, corrupt lawyers.
There was a consensus though that Trump should keep talking.
Trump: "I was too busy"
Trump: My "golf shirts"

 

This time, the guests were former or current attorneys, not journalists.

 

'Colossal blunder”: Legal experts say Trump’s Fox News interview was an “admission of guilt"
“Every time he opens his mouth, it gets worse,” ex-U.S. attorney Harry Litman warns'

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'Legal experts questioned Trump's decision to do a TV interview while facing a 37-count indictment and suggested that he may have given special counsel Jack Smith even more evidence to use against him.

"The defendant seems utterly incapable of exercising his constitutional right to remain silent," tweeted conservative attorney and frequent Trump critic George Conway.

"Keep confessing," wrote national security attorney Bradley Moss. "No criminal defense attorney worth their salt would ever advise their indicted client to do a media tour. That helps explain the problems Mr. Trump has had retaining qualified counsel," he added.'
Even George Washington University Law Prof. Jonathan Turley, who previously defended Trump amid his legal woes, warned that "statements of this kind are generally admissible at trial."

"This is one more inculpatory statement," former U.S. Attorney Harry Litman told MSNBC. "Every time he opens his mouth, it gets worse."


"Mr. Trump, good luck with that defense," former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal told MSNBC.

"If it were just newspaper articles, why in the world are you saying on the tape that it's classified? It's totally incoherent," he said. "And the other parts of the tape… really is an admission of guilt. Like, if you just think about the Espionage Act, what is the prosecution need to show? They needed to show the defendant had unauthorized possession of national defense documents, that he willfully retained the document, and failed to give the documents to an officer of the U.S. Those are the elements. So, the Trump admission goes to all of that."


https://www.salon.com/2023/06/20/co...fox-news-interview-was-an-admission-of-guilt/

 

He admitted to being in possession of the documents he was charged with. Every document listed on the indictment he has admitted having. Why would fingerprints be needed to establish what Trump as already confessed to?

 

Hang on and slow down. You make a lot of subjective statements based on speculation. Can I please tell you without arrogance that to build a case BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT it can take a long time to carefully build the evidence and connect the dots. I appreciate you might want it done faster but this is an area of law where Trump can use double speak to defend a lot of what he said raising that doubt and so to properly convict him of inciting an insurrection or for that matter tampering with votes, in either case, solid evidence needs to compiled. Beyond reasonable doubt is a high standard to prove.

Before you second guess anyone putting any case together please please understand that. Also interestingly the Trumpets on this board would be the first to claim rush to judgement without sober analysis and evidence. Please understand you have a loud minority of Trumpets leaving in a fantasy land and finding Trump guilty is as much as popping their cultist denial bubble as it is convicting him.

All said without know it all arrogance just having had to be a crown (state) attorney and knowing how long it can take to build a complex case. I spent 10 years massing info on an elaborate series of conspiracies dealing with white collar criminals. I kid you not. It took us that long to trace it to a case we could prove.

Please believe me it takes time to test possible witnesses, compile documents.

 

The first sentence above is not reasonable if for no other reason you made a sweeping partisan generalization with no objective proof let alone of which "people" you spoke to.

In regards to the second sentence above, of course you do. You are partisan, pro Trump and deny he has engaged in fraud. Posing as if you do not know when your entire context of responses is to protest Trump as being persecuted and innocent is silly.

Why worship Donny then try pose as reasonable let alone someone without an opinion as to his actions, lol.

Le Chef, You of course love Donny and I think he is a low genetic anomaly from a sewer.

Oh come now. Its like two old guys in an old age home denying we wear diapers.

 

Fingerprints could show who else handled the documents at Mar a Lago.
Guests,employees,lawyers etc.
Going with the documents having remained classified throughout from the White House to wherever they landed.

 

I said "for the most part." Let's not dispute the obvious.

How many posts do you read here about Trump's policies, as opposed to his "orange" skin color? Weren't we supposed to stop doing that like 50 years ago?

 

August 14,2023 @ U.S. 1 and Orange AvenueOrange Ave.



'Donald Trump's federal trial to take place in Fort Pierce federal courthouse

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'Donald Trump's federal trial for the classified documents seized at Mar-a-Lago will be held in Fort Pierce.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, whom Trump appointed in 2020, scheduled the trial to begin Aug. 14 in her courtroom at the Alto Lee Adams Sr. United States Courthouse at U.S. 1 and Orange Avenue.

How long will the trial take?
While it is unknown how many days the trial will take, Cannon has blocked off two weeks. It could be shorter or longer, and it could even be continued to a later date.

What is Donald Trump going to trial for?
Trump, who is seeking the 2024 Republican presidential nomination, was indicted earlier this month on 37 criminal counts and pleaded not guilty to charges related to taking hundreds of classified records when he left the White House in January 2021.'
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https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/c...leen-cannon-mar-a-lago-documents/70337676007/

 

How is referring to Trump's skin color not racist?

 

Like I was sayin', federal judges don't mess around. Sure, it'll probably be postponed once or twice, but not indefinitely:

This case is hereby set for a Criminal Jury Trial during the two-week period commencing August 14, 2023, or as soon thereafter as the case may be called. A Calendar Call will be held at 1:45 p.m. on August 8, 2023. All hearings will be held at Alto Lee Adams, Sr. United States Courthouse, 101 South U.S. Highway 1, Courtroom 4008, Fort Pierce, Florida 34950, with modifications to be made as necessary as this matter proceeds.

 

I see, you think Trump belongs to the orange race.

 

The Orange People are a strong, proud race.

 

That's exactly what my friend Valencia says.

 

They're also noted for their unique navels.

 

What you say Trump defenders?

"Once again - a question journalists NEVER ask Trump"

'When he says he declassified ALL the documents.'

"The classified documents Trump stored in his boxes included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries; United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and to plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack.”

He NEVER gets asked WHY any sane President would declassify documents that would be of enormous value to any enemy seeking to harm the United States.

And even if one doesn't get the opportunity to interview Trump himself, try that question on any of his remaining allies that parrot that defense. Sit back and watch the World Record for stammering deflection."

 

. . . when the skin color is an intentional cosmetic application and not actual hereditary skin color . . . wait . . . were you actually serious?