People like you make a mockery of science. You only believe in theological science - invisable man living high up in the sky who knows all and created all and if you dont believe in him he will torture you for all eternity.
Yep! Real scientific - biased websites and you tube presentations. Just because someone somewhere said something wrong does NOT justify unethical behaviour
Sorry Otter but that is a complete fail in every sense of the world in fact it is a megafail A blog and a right wing propaganda site - get back to us will you when you have a systematic review of the literature published in either the Cochrane Database or a recognised medical journal
I reported your rude, inane and totally inappropriate insults. I AM a woman, and a feminist. I know that women deserve better then abortion...that the majority of women who have abortions feel forced to have one. I care about how abortion not only kills the unborn baby, but wounds the mother who has to undergo the violence within her own body, against her own child. You don't care about this, and you deny scientific studies that show how abortions can result in high risks for the women; emotionally, physically, and emotionally. You feel that you can make unfounded judgements against me...and you feel that you can attack me for my beliefs. And BTW - YOU are the only one to bring religion to this...I sure have not. You are a proabortionist bully...you remind me of this guy: Warning: very foul language! [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jVQ4kYoeHM&feature=player_embedded"]Pro-Abort Loses It Over Abortion Pictures - Anti-Choice Project [/ame] TOO BAD THE MODS ALLOW THE SO-CALLED 'PRO-CHOICER'S' TO CONTINUALLY ATTACK THOSE WHOSE CHOICE IS LIFE...
If you were truly a feminist, you would trust women to make their own decisions. You would understand that being forced to NOT have an abortion is just as bad as being forced to have one. It has been shown to you numerous times that your so-called "scientific" studies are not "scientific." It is therefore apparent that what you really care about is forcing others to conform to what you "believe." You're not now nor ever have been attacked for your "beliefs." You're not now nor ever have been attacked for your "choice." If you have been attacked, it is for attempting to FORCE your "beliefs" and "choices" on everyone else. It is for LYING about the facts in order to FORCE others to conform to your own world views.
Meh - another attack by a proabortionist. Lying about the facts? How about claiming an 6 week old fetus (unborn baby) has no brain? How about denying the link between abortion & breast cancer? Induced abortion as an independent risk factor for breast cancer: a comprehensive review and meta-analysis.
A few brain cells do not make A brain. A fetus is at minimum 8 weeks old, and a fetus doesn't have a functioning brain before about 27 weeks. No link between abortion and beast cancer has been established and considerable research has been done to verify that.
Nadal isnt even a medical doctor for goodness sake. He's a crazy anti-abortion, catholic religious fanatic.
Yes, it is. OKGrannie's statements: http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...t-cancer-not-linked-abortion.html#post4348245 http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/184625-very-simple-question-pro-life-crowd-2.html#post3832900 http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...people-believe-fetus-human-4.html#post2210010 Facts are facts, no matter how many times you lie about it. Here are some facts: Brain Development, Fetal Summary Week 1-4 Neuron proliferation begins and is complete by 24 weeks. The process of neuronal migration begins at about the same time and tapers off by about the 30th week. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 52-53. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Week 3 Brain cells begin to work, multiplying more rapidly than other body cells. (Healy, Jane M., PhD. Your Child’s Growing Mind. P 12-14. NYoubleday, 1987, 1989.) At some stages 250,000 new neurons are formed every minute. (Brynie, Faith Hickman. 101 Questions Your Brain Has Asked About Itself But Couldn’t Answer, Until Now. P 19-20. CT:Millbrook Press, 1998.) Week 4 The future brain and nervous system first become apparent when a portion of the outer ectoderm thickens to form a spoon-shaped structure only one cell thick known as the neural plate. A neural groove runs the length of the neural plate, dividing it into right and left halves. (Restak, Richard, MD. The Secret Life of the Brain. P 2. Washington D.C.:The Dana Press and Joseph Henry Press, 2001.) Week 5 The fetus moves arms and legs, turns and bends body, head and back. It gains muscle practice with little effort in the gravity-free environment. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P 16. NY:Bantam Books, 1985.) Week 6 The fetal auditory system is nearly complete. Every cell is influenced by the energy reflected in sound waves. (Pearsall, Paul, PhD. The Heart’s Code. P 110. NY:Broadway Books, 1998.) Week 7 Sexual identity is determined by 6-7 weeks. (Moir, Anne, and David Jessel. Brain Sex. P 20-26. NY:Carol Publishing Group, 1989, 1991.) Weeks 1-8 A period of great vulnerability to many types of drugs and to alcohol. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 60. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Week 8 The embryonic period lasts from implantation until about the 8th week of pregnancy. (Ornstein, Robert, PhD. The Roots of the Self. P. 36. NY:HarperCollins Publishing, 1995.) By the eighth week, the fetus will kick when poked. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 52. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) By the eight week, the brain has developed its three parts. (Ratey, John J., MD. A User’s Guide to the Brain. P 23. NY:Vintage Books, 2002.) By seven and a half to eight weeks the fetus is able to experience sensation when reflex responses to somatic stimuli begin. (Derbyshire, Stuart W. G., PhD. The Science and Politics of Fetal Pain.) Week 9 About the 9th week the fetus responds to upsets by flexing its torso and extending its head. (Ornstein, Robert, PhD. The Roots of the Self. P 36. NY: HarperCollins Publishing, 1995.) Genital formation on the fetus occurs between 9-12th weeks. (Joy, Donald, PhD. The Innate Differences Between Males & Females (Audio). CO: Focus on the Family, 1967.) Week 10-15 Within seconds following a cough from the mother, the fetus begins to move rapidly. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 52. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Week 11 Finger sucking begins, which helps to develop jaw and cheek muscles. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P. 16. NY:Bantam Books, 1985.) Week 12 By the end of the 12th week, the fetal will have fingernails. (Joy, Donald M., PhD. Bonding. P 90. TX:Word Books, 1985.) Fetus is able to yawn. (Imrdkl, A Smiling Fetus is a Happy Fetus.) Swallows amniotic fluid regularly. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P 16. NY:Bantam Books, 1985.) First Trimester Avoid harmful substances and get appropriate nutrition for the forming fetal brain/nervous system. A folacin shortage can lead to brain/spinal cord malformations (e.g., anencephaly, spina bifida). (Diamond, Marian, PhD, and Janet Hopson. Magic Trees of the Mind. P 68-70. NY:A Dutton Book 1998.) Week 13 The fetal brain can discriminate environmental events and can learn and retain information about environmental stimuli. The heart rate of the fetus changes when sounds occur in the environment. (LeDoux, Joseph. Synaptic Self. P 92. NYenguin Books, 2002.) Auditory centers in the brainstem emerge. (Schwartz, Jeffrey M., MD, and Sharon Begley. The Mind & the Brain. P 124-125. NY: Regan Books, 2002.) Week 14 The process by which neurons differentiate to their specific functions begins at approximately 14 weeks of gestation and continues through the first year of life. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 23. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Week 15 Taste buds are beginning to detect taste differences in the amniotic fluid due to the presence of varying chemicals. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 52-53. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Week 16 The layout of fingerprint patterns is finalized about 16 weeks after conception. (LeVay, Simon and Janice Baldwin. Human Sexuality. P 108-109. MA:Sinauer Associates, Inc., Third Edition, 2009.) By the 4th month after conception, the fetus is able to hear. (Tomatis, Alfred A, M.D. Editor Timothy M. Gilmore, PhD, et al. About the Tomatis Method. P 20-24. Toronto, Canada: The Listening Centre Press, 1989.). Fetus is light sensitive from the 16th week. A direct light held to the mother’s abdomen will startle the fetus and cause it to move away. May cover its eyes in response to light and its ears in response to ultrasound. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 52. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Week 17 The fetus can feel touch all over the body except for the back and top of the head. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P. 52. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) Olfactory bulb and nerves responsible for the sense of smell are fully formed. Activity in the area of the brain responsible for smell is present before birth. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P 20. NY: Bantam Books, 1985.) Week 18 Fetus opening eyes can be seen on ultrasound. (Imrdkl, A Smiling Fetus is a Happy Fetus.) Week 20 External sex organs begin to develop as a result of sex hormones, primarily androgens. (Arnold, Caroline. Sex Hormones. P 60-61. NY:William Morrow & Company, 1981.) Cells are in place to form the cerebral cortex in the core of the fetal brain. (Durden-Smith, Jo, and Diane deSimone. Sex and the Brain. P 168-175. NY:Arbor House Publishing, 1983.) Taste buds are formed. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P 20. NY:Bantam Books, 1985.) Week 22 Imprinting of muscle response to the phonemes of mother’s speech begins. If there is no speech stimulus from the mother, the phonetic response of the fetus in utero will not develop. (Pearce, Joseph Chilton. The Biology of Transcendence. P 100-102. VTark Street Press, 2002.) Week 24 The fetus can hear the mother’s voice and the father’s, if he is close during gestation, and is able to distinguish them from others at time of birth. (Karr-Morse, Robin, and Meredith S. Wiley. Ghosts from the Nursery. P 52. NY:Atlantic Monthly Press, 1997.) The fetus can hear, and is listening carefully. (Diamond, Marian, PhD, and Janet Hopson. Magic Trees of the Mind. P 98-99. NY:A Dutton Book, 1998.) Begins to make facial movements that resemble crying. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P 16. NY: Bantam Books, 1985.) Week 26 Responds to touch. (Ludington-Hoe, Susan, PhD, with Susan K. Golant, MA. How to Have a Smarter Baby. P 21. NY:Bantam Books, 1985.) Ultrasound shows fetus making facial movements that resemble smiling. (Imrdkl, A Smiling Fetus is a Happy Fetus.) Fetal eyes capable of producing tears. (Source)
The presence of a few brain cells doesn't indicate A brain. Movements and responses made by a fetus before the last few months are not at the direction of its brain. http://eileen.250x.com/Main/Einstein/Brain_Waves.htm I suggest that as physicians we should view human existence as a continuum from the first cell division of the fertilized ovum until the death of the last cell in the organism. When the coordinating and individuating function of a living brain is demonstrably present, the full human organism exists. Before full brain differentiation, only cells, organs, and organ systems exist, which may potentially be integrated into a full human organism if the brain develops. After brain death what is left of the organism is once again only a collection of organs, all available to us for use in transplantation, since the full human being no longer exists. But the human part of the brainthe cortexis not fully developed, as shown by "brain waves" on an EEG, until very late in gestation; in fact the EEG continues to change and mature into childhood. Indeed, the "individuating" function of a person's brain doesn't start to come into existence until the outer surface of the cortex begins to develop those deep furrows, grooves, and convolutions (sulci and gyri) that make a human brain look like a walnut, unlike the smooth brains of other animals. The furrows and grooves are what enable our brains to have millions more cells and connections between them than other animals, and so create our humanity. And the precise configuration of the grooves and convolutions are part of what determines our individuality; why, for instance, indentical twins have different personalities, and even, perhaps, why Einstein was a genius. However, these structures don't begin to form until the last 2 months of pregnancy
If someone says he "has no head for math," do you think he means he literally has no head? It means he is incapable of understanding math, just as "no brain with which to anticipate having a life or to wish to have a life" means the fetus is incapable of anticipating having a life because its brain has not yet developed enough.
You should let women make their own choices as to what they want to do, and stop believing that most women are forced to have one. That is a load of bunk if I ever heard it.
Hmmmm - a 14 year old study - and one published in a lesser known journal Now why is THAT relevant, well apparently one month after this was published a bigger study showed no correlation http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/89/8/589.1.full.pdf And let us look at the authors of the report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Brind conflict of interest much? This rather large study does NOT agree with Brind's conclusions http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199701093360201 You also have no agreement with Brind from any of the national bodies relating to breast cancer
