While a true feminist might eschew abortion for herself, there is no way a true feminist would lobby for a law removing choice from other women. A true feminist would trust women to make the best choice. BTW, no matter how many times you repeat the lie, "abortion leaves women wounded for life", evidence shows it to be false.
True feminists want women to base their choices on TRUTH. It's not "information" when it's a lie. It's manipulation. It's coercion. It's evil.
Pro-choice folks are generally in the feminist camp because they trust women. And because they like women and believe in their abilities.
I can accept anti abortion feminists for themselves. I can't see any feminist attempting to block another woman's choice though. Did I stated that I was pro choice. There you go making things up again. They are not killing their children only stupid people put it like that or people with an agenda. I don't think you're stupid so you must have an anti feminist agenda and want to make your decision for all women. I don't want to do that. If a woman is anti abortion that's her business not mine. To make it my business to try and make all women of my belief that is wrong and that is exactly what you are attempting to do. Your not a feminist. You want to control women. Guess what pumpkin abortion is legal so deal with it.
That was a knee slapper. You think women are too stupid to manage the risks in their sexual life (that is why you want abortion to remain legal), you don't trust the decision they make after seeing an ultrasound, you fight educating them on the fact that an abortion is a homicide. You are all about fraud.
They do manage their sex lives just fine without males trying to manipulate them. If they see fit to have an abortion it is their choice not yours. You must feel very weak in not being able to push women into the mold you want them to fill. You're all about trying to control women. OKgrannie speaks with a true woman's heart and voice. A voice of love and acceptance of her sisters. Your voice speaks of arrogance and manipulation. I would much rather hear the voice of love. A true woman's voice.
I believe women are smart enough to reduce the risks in their sexual lives and to make any decision on the outcome. I said it's the woman's decision whether she has seen an ultrasound or not and it's her choice whether to see one. Why would I or anybody support telling women that abortion is a homicide when it clearly is not?
What a rambling mess THAT post was! Let's try to clear a few misstatements of yours up, shall we: How is providing information about the breast cancer/abortion link an attempt to block another woman's choice? It is not. What it is: providing INFORMED choice. The real question is why do proabortionists want to deny women from INFORMED choice? Hmmmm? And I think I clearly showed that you were NOT pro-choice, rather pro-abortionist...so you are off base there. Who do you think gets killed in an abortion? The unborn child of the woman undergoing the procedure - and if she is lucky - not herself as well. Why would you think providing information about the risks of abortion is 'anti-feminist'? Do you think women don't deserve to know the risks they are subjected to when undergoing an abortion? Why are medical personnel REQUIRED to disclose risks of all medical procedures...but not the risks of abortion? How would THAT be a feminist position? Yes, abortion is legal...but so was slavery at one time. Did that make slavery right? Should the blacks just have accepted their fate?
Spreading the lie about a non-existent link is a blatant attempt to block women from accessing legal treatment.
false information does not assist anyone with informed decsion making. no you did not. someone who supports a woman's right to choose is pro choice. I don't even know that Pro abortion is an accurate rerm in the context of the discussion. that would suggest they support abortion against non abortion, and I haven't seen that as the case. on the other hand, it is more accurate to describe the anti abortionist as anti choice, because they would prefer women do not have the choice. calling an anti abortionist pro life is silly. often they are not pro life in the wider context. scaremongering and propaganda is often used a means to try to push people towards making certain choices in cases where outright coercion is illegal. telling lies to try to force people to make a certain choice is not consistent with feminist principles. are you suggesting that black people have the same level of consciousness as an embryo?
most abortions are in the first trimester. http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/facts/women_who.html maybe you should be promoting early abortions?
I see you did not read OR comprehend the OP. Let's try again: Sooooo...if a woman delivers prematurely (before 32 weeks) OR undergoes an abortion, she does NOT undergo the differentiation process...which leaves her with GREATLY increased number of cancer-vulnerable Type 1 and 2 lobules. AND research shows that women who have premature deliveries before 32 weeks of pregnancy more than double their breast cancer risk. A premature birth is biologically the same event as an abortion. (without the violent dismemberment of the unborn baby, of course). So cassandrabandra - I think you are fairly well versed in biology. What information provided here is wrong?
not sure that you read the link either: if in fact the difference is that most miscarriages occur in the first trimester, then the same risk would apply to most (88%) of abortions - the majority are performed within the first eight weeks of a pregnancy. other than that, the article does not provide any information as to other reasons why abnormal pregnancies would place a woman at lower risk.
No. You did not understand or missed this from the OP: In other words - there wasn't sufficient estrogen produced to maintain the pregnancy because of the abnormality...and therefore, no estrogen climbs of 2,000% by the end of the first trimester. No estrogen to cause breasts to grow, and to stimulate cancer-vulnerable Type 1 and 2 lobules to multiply. However - an abortion is a violent interuption of a NORMAL pregnancy...big difference. The estrogen is in full force...as Nature intented. Funny what happens when you mess with Mother Nature, eh? I'm really surprised you don't understand this process.
False information that you provide helps no one. Did I ever say that I was pro choice? I did not. I support a woman's right to do what she feels is best for her. That is all I have ever said. Whatever any woman chooses is the right choice for her. It is the abortion of a fetus. You put your agenda well ahead of the woman's choice. You want everyone to believe your way. I do not. You have an agenda I do not. It is anti feminist as the information you give is biased and slanted to carry an agenda. That would be your agenda and not that of women overall. You want all women to be anti abortion that is anti feminist as you would take the choice away. It is a feminist position as it empowers women to have control of the reproductive system and body. You would fight to take that away and are fighting that even now. Blacks and abortion are not comparable as one is dealing with living people who were being mistreated and owned. The other deals with a fetus who is living off the woman involved. Maybe you would like to make an honest comparison.
where does it say that there wasn't sufficient estrogen produced to maintain the pregnancy because of the abnormality? I am asking this because most women who miscarry spontaneously show the same symptoms as other women whose pregnancy is of the same duration, which suggests that the hormonal activity is much the same. I don't recall seeing anything contradicting this in the article.
Nope. It has been long established that miscarriages typically resulted from low estrogen levels. Estrogen Maintains Pregnancy, Triggers Fetal Maturation And here is another new study: Higher Estrogen Production in the Breast Could Confer Greater Cancer Risk Than Thought And on a personal level, I know that was the case when I miscarried my baby years ago...I did not feel 'pregnant' as I did with my 4 sons that I carried to term. My breasts did not immediately enlarge, which is what elevated estrogen levels would produce...and I ultimately miscarried around 13 weeks gestation. And in talking to doctors and others who have miscarried, this was quite typical.
Otter, Mind your own business sonny. If a woman wants to abort fetal tissue from HER body that is HER legal right. Pray for her if you want to but keep your nose out of her business.
Yukon - you are free to your opinion, as am I. As a feminist I am very concerned with the long-term risks abortion causes those women who undergo the procedure. And that 'fetal tissue' happens to be their unborn child...that is usually dismembered in the abortion procedure. If you want to ignore the truth, so be it. But you have NO right to dictate to me. Talk about who wants to control women...you are a prime example of how the proabortionists want to dictate and control the narrative regarding abortion. And I am no 'sonny'. You need to rethink your assumptions on many levels.
Most Of The Feminazis that I know are in favour of a woman's right of free-choice. I'm surprised that some women still allow men to control them.
Meh...Yukon, you are a troll. You have contributed NOTHING to the discussion about the abortion/breast cancer link, except your insults to me. You are not worth wasting my time with. Welcome to my ignore list.
