For Those Who DON'T Understand OWS (Obviously LOTS of you!)

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  1. NoPartyAffiliation

    NoPartyAffiliation New Member

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    I guess a lot of people here just believe what the MSM and Right Wing E-media
    tell them. This would be the only explanation for some of the posts I've seen.
    So I thought I'd help! Here is a C&P from a great OWS site. It will give you
    guys a better idea of why you should support us! Here ya go:

    "1. We don't want to End Capitalism, We Want to End Corporatacracy.

    First, let's make it clear, This is a political movement, not an economic
    revolt. We want to end the control of our government by Multi-National
    Corporations. This is Issue Number One for everyone I've spoken to in Occupy
    Wall Street.

    Not one Occupier I know of, wants to turn us into the former Soviet Union (although just like the TP, every movement has it's fringe and the MSM loves to find them). We
    don't want to end the economic system which allows people to buy the goods of
    their choice. But we do want to end a corrupt political system which allows
    Multi-National Corporations to buy the politicians of their choice. So the
    single most important theme is Taking control of our government away from
    Corporations and putting it back into the hands of We the People.

    2. We won't tolerate a government that rewards corporate incompetence, greed and
    fraud. No More Bank Bailouts.

    The banks bought our government and then, after they lined their pockets with
    the wealth of our nation, they blackmailed the government into giving them even
    MORE money "In order to keep the economy from collapsing". Right. Then, instead
    of making or refinancing home loans, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo and
    others spent our money on business mergers & acquisitions to benefit the 1%. Oh,
    and of course, they paid themselves million dollar bonuses with our money.

    We want to set a deadline for payback of existing bailouts. Any company that has
    not fully repaid all monies by the deadline, should be broken up so that they
    are no longer "too big to fail".

    3. We want the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed immediately.
    For those of you unfamiliar with it: After the Great Depression, congress passed
    the Glass-Steagal act to make sure that banks would never take stupid risks or
    use corrupt practices to send the country into another Depression. Then 60 years
    later, the banks and companies that bought and paid for Republican Senators Bill
    Gramm, Jim Leach and Tom Bliley told them that Glass-Steagal was interfering
    with their ability to swindle the American Public. Their masters told these
    senators to pass a bill that would NOT ONLY allow them to gamble foolishly again
    with American Tax-Payer money - they wanted complete control of our Financial
    System by being able OWN both stock brokerages and Insurance Companies too.
    Then, once their cohorts completed the creation of what's called a "FIRE
    Economy" (an economy based on Finance, Insurance & Real Estate) in America, they
    would control everything.

    Of course the Senators bowed to their masters and Gramm-Leach-Bliley was passed
    with a super-majority that was veto-proof. If it had not been passed, NOT ONE
    BANK would have needed bailout money because they would have been prohibited
    from investing in the Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities Market.

    Some people say we should let "The Market" regulate itself. Are the Banksters
    worthy of the trust that was given to them under this law? Here's an example:
    Citibank is on trial right now.
    While they were selling over $500 MILLION dollars worth of those
    toxic mortgage securities to the 99% as a good investment, they were betting the
    securities would fail by "Short-Selling" at the same time. In other words, while
    they sold your parents these securities for their retirement, they made a bet
    the securities would fail - and earned over $140M dollars by doing so. Citibank
    is currently offering to pay back about half the money they defrauded out of
    regular people as long as no one from the bank goes to jail or even loses their
    job. Guess what? The government is going for it. Why? Because the 1% doesn't
    have to pay for their crimes. We do. In this case, WE'RE paying their $285M fee
    with the bailout money they were given. And people wonder why we're mad."

    That's just a small part of the REAL message of OWS. it's a little bit different
    than what the SpinDoctors of the MSM and Right Wing media talk about or allow
    you to see, isn't it?

    The Whole World is watching and listening to our message. Foreign stations give more accurate coverage than FOX - who still spews BS about wanting Socialism and anarchy.

    Here is an example of the more accurate foreign coverage of our message:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZweJI66e1U"]Occupy Wall Street Exposes Enormous Corruption Between Government and Corporations - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Go back to your parents basements and try getting a job
     
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  3. Idiocracy

    Idiocracy New Member

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    90% of them have jobs that's more than the tea party.
     
  4. Rapunzel

    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    It's impossible that 90% have jobs. People with jobs couldn't live in a park for 2 months without going to work.
     
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    I'm not sure what the problem is. According to you occupiers, you represent 99% of the population. With numbers like that, you will sweep all the elections next year and be able to fill every position. Then you can fix everything.
     
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    Rapunzel New Member Past Donor

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    How about the violence, the rapes, the stealing, the demands listed on the website are not what you state???

    How about all the antisemitism???
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Well let me know where they work and if they're hiring, cause I wouldn't make taking 2 months off to pretend I'm at Woodstock.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOrT0OcHh0"]Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Three and a Half Days - YouTube[/ame]

    ^^^ That is the OWS movement and the solution.
     
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    Piscivorous New Member

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    90% of the OWS ***** don't know what the (*)(*)(*)(*) they are doing there.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't build a political movement around a bunch of pot heads. That would be silly.

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  11. way2convey

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    No problem with the 3 you posted, but.....Ok....Lets get this straight...the right wing media have not been spinning the rapes, shootings, property destruction, filthy squaller, loss of real jobs, the "F**K America song, or the "i don't care if 9/11 happens again" being spewed by the OWS crowds...THOSE ARE REAL!

    You want respect...EARN IT & stop the partisan BS!
     
  12. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    Given multi-national corporations do not get a vote they don't "control" our government, those who do get a vote do so.

    OWS and those nuts who support it, would do well to at least get their facts straight, if they want for anyone to take them seriously as a political movement, and not just some parasites looking for a handout as most who have more than one brain cell firing, see them today.

    As for bank bailouts, elections have consequences, something some would do well to remember next november as Obammy and his Democrats beg for your vote.

    Want an act repealed, fine.

    Rather than acting as a mob, destroying private property, why don't you OWS leech's behave like civilized citizens and persuade the people to elect the senators and representatives to do so.
     
  13. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then elect people to office that will do those things. Do not interfere in the rights of other citizens. Do not engage in anarchy. Do not trash government and private property.
     
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    Unfortunately, many people never come together on issues of mutual benefit. The divided lower and middle classes ensure the financial slavery and political subjugation of said classes.
     
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    Someone gets it. If folks honestly want control of this country... it's already in their hands. Every four years we all get a chance vote for whatever candidate we want -- including honest men who will make hard choices.

    But we don't.

    The American public each year votes instead for the guy who promises us he'll magically give us something for nothing. Then we stick our heads back in the sand.
     
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    Vergilius Banned

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    Are you serious? You never heard of lobbying? You honestly think your vote makes a difference? Your vote doesn't even count if the electoral college you live in votes another way.
     
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    Have you? Lobbying is just promotion of an idea, it's advertising. Advertising can't force you to buy a product or to accept an idea.

    All the lobbyists in the world could love a given politician, but if the people don't vote for him he can't do a thing.
     
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    We voters are getting the shaft. The multi-national corporations may not vote, but they buy votes through campaign donations and other perks.

    The Republican candidates being pushed by the media will be no better than Obama. We won't be allowed to vote for anyone who will look out for the people instead of special interests. The system is corrupt and we cannot work within a corrupt system. The actions of Congress and the president under the last few administrations prove it.

    Acting nice hasn't worked so far, or haven't you noticed? Don't you remember that phone calls to Congressmen were as high as 300 to 1 against the bailouts, and Congress voted for them anyway? Why? They were rewarding their biggest contributors, that's why.

    We elect so-called representatives who then turn around and reward their corporate donors. The system is broken. It literally takes millions of dollars to run for Congress on the federal level. This prevents members of the symbolic 99% from running. Most don't have those kind of funds and are not politically connected enough to solicit millions from corporate donors.

    I oppose violence, and realize the violence is being done by a small group of people but being splashed allover the media as representative of the whole movement. Yet I also realize that we would still be a colony of England if it weren't for the violence against an unjust system that caused the formation of the United States. How much injustice are we supposed to put up with now?

    I am disgusted by the people who are ignoring the injustices of the corporotocracy and choosing to demonize those protesting it. They are no better than the people who claimed that all tea partiers were selfish racists.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because a good number of the Tea Party are SUCCESSFULLY RETIRED< having already EARNED their places. Duh...
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
    --Noam Chomsky


    Are you listening, Noam? :omg:
     
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    Vergilius Banned

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    Right, advertising. I suppose my boss also "advertises" to me when I get my pay check every week.

    Without millions in campaign contributions, it is unlikely that a candidate will even receive media attention. And it is evident when a politician votes in favor of laws that benefit a certain company and then when they leave politics get a cushy position in said company that shady practices occurred. And it happens regularly in both parties. If you look at any federal regulatory agency in the US, the highest seats are more often than not presided over by someone from private industry who is at best a conflict of interest.
     
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    Is that so.Then why hasn't The official Obama Politburo or MSNBC
    telecast any interview from inside those encampments of Occupiers
    stating as mush.
    Proilly cuz yer full of it.
     
  23. Ironball

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    Hmm...... I doubt there are many who don't understand OWS at this point.

    Even if one did not watch any television or other media, there at least a hundred Youtube's and photo's to enlighten one.

    Some naive idealists are trying to refine their message.....but they can't control the various rowdy anarchist, communist, or socialist factions of their group..........hard to take them seriously.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Voting in such an election is an example of saying "the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume."
     
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    We already had a protest movement over the bank bailouts.

    It was called the Tea Party.

    Where were you guys then?
     

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