Will Generation Gimme work for the American Dream?

Yes, I think there needs to be a higher education standered for teachers, but de-unionizing them (making them work for less pay) or cutting school funding is not the answer.

 

Why should they stay in a union? Wouldn't it be better to let go off the less effective or qualified teachers? School funding needs to be re-assessed. It surely isn't working as is. It's just like American health care, you pay so much yet get so little.

 

I blame only some parents but i find the most culpability lies with the education system. When my kids were going thru public schools i had to do de-programming on a daily basis. ALL the way thru. These people who taught my kids have tenure and are teaching yours now. They are the hippies and radicals of the 60's and early 70's and they have vengeful hearts.

 

Fifteen percent of the citizens of Mexico live in the United States. Forty percent of them live in California. The further south you go the more like Mexico it is, but they have spread into my neighborhood. They are some of the most desperate, ignorant and unskilled people on earth. They have changed my life.

 

Teachers are not professionals. Teaching is an occupation. The best and brightest people generally do not enter teaching. Since so many teachers are mediocre they need the union. Even teachers with advanced degrees all too often seem to have inferior intellects.

 

Bing. go.

 

It has been working for 200 years. It only doesn't work when greedy people don't want to pay their fair share.

 

And by greedy people who don't want to pay their fair share, you mean the 51% of households who through mortgage deductions and child credits and other shenanigans have a negative rate of income taxation.

It's funny how greedy has come to mean people with money and not people who want to take that money.

 

Much like immigrants to Japan. Usually Southeast Asians or the other Pacific Islanders.

I got higher degrees in America, mostly for the research opportunities. Paid my way by TA-ing on campus. Future teachers were some horrible drunks, the kids who chose bad majors and were then bad at the subject.

In America, the teacher isn't respected as much. But it's cyclic. The teacher isn't respected, so good students don't want to be teachers... students don't want to be teachers because they're not respected.

It has? America's success in innovation has largely been due to immigrants coming in and filling in the universities and research facilities. The entire wing of my research lab when I was working on my PhD was from Germany... and holy heck do they love their chemistry.

 

As to the OP...the American dream is gone. Nothing left to work for as it's been corrupted out of existence.

 

Greedy, like your "Gimme" generation that wants everything taken from others given to you ?

 

and the current administration has picked up where the last left off.

 

de unionization does not equal less pay.

The problem is the stupid RULES the Union demands.

The problem is the overly lavish RETIREMENTS the Unions demand.

The problem is TENURE and the inability to get rid of bad teachers.

Pay isn't the problem and you don't need a union to get good pay!

I don't care if they spent 25-30 years in the school system or not, that doesn't give them the right to a taxpayer funded multi-million dollar retirement!

 

I have two in college, and two in high school. All four would have definitely been in the 20% of his class....thank God.

They have friends who would have answered with the 80%, and my kids realize when they look at them that those friends will go nowhere, and will never be anything, truly.

My kids have pride.

 

Wow, what a biased and useless interview. That professor simply passes off radical free-market extremism as some normal mode of thinking, and the whole discussioned seemed to be about how he (and the host) thought that it was a shame the other eighty percent disagreed. Did anyone stop to think that maybe this economics professor is the one with the radical ideas?

 

paying off prodigious student loans, lower paying jobs, with no retirement...ruining the middle class one home at a time. they are working for the bottom line folks who will squeeze them for the last nickle. the entire civilization is about to go down the tubes.

 

I listened to the Fox "report".
1) attempt to bash OWS( the students wrote about their American dream BEFORE that.
2) mocking the socialism and how the American dream is not about plundering other peoples wealth.

Tell that to banking The Fed, Wall street that gamed the system and plundered the wealth of millions who lost homes, jobs, retirements as a few were able to block oversight and plunder the American dream for the many. they also proved they are above the law since they pay lobbyists to gerrymander their way around it.
as usual Fox is there with its wide simplistic brush.

There is great unrest among the youth because in the American dream something is on critical life support. just barely mention is that from 29% to now over 42% of Americans are on some form of financial support. since the 1980s. Something is critically wrong as more Americans are underwater.
the "American Dream" of corporate America is
: to force labor to work ever longer hours for lesser pay.
>to rob benefits as "assets of a company" to be plundered by Wall street takeover.
>To use Govt to undue former agreements when corporations reorganize.
>to cut employee benefits to the bone
>to use Congress as their whores to do their bidding so any legislation is written to the specs of the lobbyist.
> to allow banking, Wall street and the fed to act in unison of the greatest ponzy heist ever of peoples wealth that melted down the system in 2008 and no one went to Jail.

Yes the American dream is in trouble and the elite have bent the rules so far
that their 1% audaciousness is in trouble. The Youth are not willing to be slaves in this machine under the current deal and no amount of screeching on Fox is going to change that.
Class warfare? Since Reagen and his changes in what constitutes a monopoly, Wall street and a select slice have benefited while even Fox reports people on relief since the 80s has jumped from 29% to 42%, and astounding leap as more people are being marginalized from that dream.
the ultra right would have you believe in a Dickensian analogy they are LAZY and are NOT the responsibility to take care of when the same group took TRILLIONS of tax dollars to finance their big casino gambling we all paid for.

In this version of "Its a Wonderful life we are now living in Pottersville and potter controls the game and all funds slide into his pockets.
The American Dream? it is now legal for the rich to plunder and make their behavior "legal" and they are growing uneasy as they should.

 

Exactly. This is what makes these cycles so difficult to break. It's just too easy to blame kids, parents, schools in isolation of the environment in which they live.

I think people need to ask themselves if they actually know first hand what it feels like to be brought up into a community, where there are no jobs other than the odd McJob. Then be armed with the first hand knowledge of what that feels like and how it impacts a childs motivation for school work.

These problems are far more complex than most people imagine.

The root causes (or at least near root cause) are likely to be, the rise of imported goods and the accumulation of power to a very small group of very very rich individuals, who can make or break political careers, generally subsidise White House bids of all candidates.

This status quo is unlikely to change in the near or even mid future. Whether you like it or not, the people of the US simply exchanged one rich master for another.

 

There's a difference in claiming your legally allowed tax rebates and lobbying government to give you more tax rebates.

Nonetheless, the relaity is that the US does not collect enough taxes to cover its outgoings and the Right and Left fingerpointing is only delaying the inevitable.... and making the consequences worse.

 

Absolutely. From what I've read, this is a concept long gone. A big shame.

 

There's a fine line Silicon. US corporations have been making ever increasing record profits since the late 60's, and their CEO's have made ever increasing record incomes. So why have the wages of the workers not increased at all?

 

The US can't collect enough taxes to cover it's outgoings. We need massive spending cuts.

 

As long as they have an iPhone v10, an iPad and a MacBook pro and their box is positioned where they can steal a WiFi connection..somewhere near a Starbucks and the box is large enough that they can hang an Obama 'Hope and Change' poster....they will be happy.

 

Don't put the blame solely on teachers, look at the cirriculums. Dumb down the cirriculums and you get dumb downed students.

 

the baby boomers and Gen X have failed this country miserably. they had every chance to stop the downfall but they didn't do anything about it. Now Gen Y is facing the effects of their big government welfare state and military empire