Afghan boy suicide bombers tell how they are brainwashed

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    Afghan boy suicide bombers tell how they are brainwashed into believing they will survive

    Child suicide bombers say they were told by their handlers that the "bombs would not kill us, only the Americans would die".


    The mission was as simple as touching two wires together, the little boy was promised. The resulting blast would obliterate the American infidels – but God would spare him from the flame and shrapnel. Abdul Samat would be unharmed and free to run back to the men who had fitted his bomb vest.

    Blindfolded and rigged with his explosive payload, the boy, who was about 13, was driven to his target in the Afghan city of Kandahar, after being plucked from the streets of Quetta in neighbouring Pakistan. Minutes before he was due to execute the attack, however, Abdul realised the lies of his recruiters seeking to turn him into a human bomb.

    "When I opened my eyes, I saw it was a very black thing they wanted me to do," he later recalled.

    "I began to cry and shout. People came out of their houses and asked what was wrong. I showed them I had something in my vest. Then they were scared too and called the police who took the bombs off me."

    Afghan security officials say that Abdul's story is not unusual. In the past year, insurgents have used a wave of child suicide bombers, some as young as 10, on the ruthless assumption that small boys can pass through checkpoints and security cordons more easily than men.
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    A senior Afghan intelligence official estimated that more than 100 had been intercepted in the past 12 months, including 20 from the Kandahar area in the south. The insurgents seek to exploit the innocence of their recruits and turn it into a weapon.

    The largely illiterate boys are fed a diet of anti-Western and anti-Afghan government propaganda until they are prepared to kill, he said. But the boys are also assured that they will miraculously survive the devastation they cause.

    "The worst part is that these children don't think that they are killing themselves," said the official. "They are often given an amulet containing Koranic verses. Mullahs tell them, 'When this explodes you will survive and God will help you survive the fire. Only the infidels will be killed, you will be saved and your parents will go to paradise'."

    Throughout the war against the Soviet invaders in the 1980s, and the civil strife that followed, Afghan fighters of all factions rejected suicide attacks as cowardly and unIslamic.

    The tactic was adopted only after 2001, learned from Arab jihadists who had used it to devastating effect in Iraq.

    The first Afghan suicide bomber is believed to have been a man called Hafez Abdallah, who in 2004 threw himself on a military Jeep and detonated mortar bombs strapped to his body. Suicide bombs hidden in vehicles or sewn into vests have since been widely employed.

    The Taliban denies using children as bombers, pointing out that its battlefield code forbids any military use of pre-pubescent boys. One Taliban facilitator from northern Afghanistan told The Daily Telegraph: "All our bombers are men and they are all volunteers. We never use boys."

    But Nato and Afghan security officials said the tactic has been widely adopted. Child bombers had been used by the Haqqani network, an insurgent group aligned to the Taliban.

    Boys are frequently chosen from the madrassas, or Islamic colleges, in Pakistan's tribal areas, where poor Pashtun families in southern Afghanistan send their sons for a free education.

    "They send them because they can't feed them sometimes. They have 10 sons, they can't feed them," said the Afghan official.

    Gul Khan, who looks no older than 10, said his father had insisted he go to a madrassa in Pakistan run by a man called Maulawi Sher Jan.

    "Each day they were preaching that we would tie bombs on to our bodies and attack foreigners in Afghanistan," he said after escaping and being arrested on the border.

    "They told us the bombs would not kill us, only the Americans would die and you can come back to us."

    Many of the captured boys have been pardoned, but others remain in Afghanistan's child jails. Once in custody, they often retract their televised confessions, justice officials in Kandahar said.

    Three convicted child suicide bombers, seen by The Daily Telegraph, all said their confessions had been false and they were wrongly convicted. Haji Abdul Haq, the juvenile prosecutor for Kandahar, denied pressure had been placed on them and said they were often caught wearing bomb vests. "They confess at first, but when their families reach them, they change their minds," he said.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...nwashed-into-believing-they-will-survive.html


    (*)(*)(*)(*) on the Taliban. These scumbags should be hanged and buried in pig skins.


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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    This is surprising or shocking?

    Did you believe that the children did such horrible things on their own? They are lied to or threatened, or their families are threatened.

    This isn't new or enlightening.
     
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    Some people really does not have any conscience... using innocent children for such hideous act.
     
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    It is disgusting.


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  5. Mehmet

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    very disturbing.
    people are just blinded.

    this is also disturbing:
    http://tinyurl.com/84xxgkk

    too much hatred is being served.
     
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    Sounds terrible, turning boys into dispassionate killers.

    http://tinyurl.com/yfgflux



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  7. GeddonM3

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    Well lookie here, already 2 Muslim psychopath apologists grace us with their stupidity and once again comparing apples to oranges.

    Hey when you realize that gitmo only contains grown adults and the marines train grown adults as well, and not little boys like your coward Muslim psychos do, you might be able to join the big boy discussion instead of making truly retarded and ridiculous comparisons.

    Atleast our country only recruits adult men and women, your pussified Muslim chicken (*)(*)(*)(*)s have to use 10 year olds to fight for them and die because the men are too much of wimps to take on their own fight.

    Dispicable you could show any support for this action, birds of the same cowardice flock? Probably.
     
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    sounds like bad parenting..... that is if the parents havent already been vaporized by freedom bombs.
     
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    That is terrible. Perhaps if the Afghans had military equipment they wouldn't need to use suicide bombers, nonetheless trick/threaten the children into doing it... That is just sick

    But don't forget civilians in Afghanistan including children are also dying from US weaponry - most likely in a much larger scale.
     
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    more likely the parents have been deleted by their own children or muslim bretheren than by an American bomb. muslims make new martyrs on a daily basis, its their way of fighting. cant take on the US military so they lower themselves to being cowards and instead bombing mainly unarmed women and children. but now since they are seemingly running out of willing muslim psychopaths to detonate themselves in a school yard, they now need to use children because they will believe the fantasies the sorry bastards will tell them.
     
  11. Mehmet

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    don't force yourself.
    rest a little.

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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, I know the truth can really sting. But you are correct as I don't have to try hard at all. All we have to do is wait for the next days batch of psycho muslims to blow up more people and they make the point for us.
     
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    Sounds good to me, although I am indifferent to what is done with dead bodies.

    The dead bodies of children our bombs and assaults leave behind undermine OUR claims of "superiority", no matter HOW necessary those deaths may have thought to have been, as well.

    THEY feel killing children is essential to their cause, and so do WE. We should be ready to answer to God with MORE than a trite response if He asks if there were another way that would have spared the children.....
     
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    don't be sorry yet.
    you've just met me.

    define the truth.

    sure, join the herd of ignorance.

    too much exposure to television and the same cultural environment.
    that's the diagnosis.

    prescription: read (more), go fishing.
     
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    well lookie here ... you must have serious mental issues if you think anyone who participates on this forum thinks its OK to use children as "suicide" bombers.

    its also incorrect to refer to these children as "suicide" bombers .

    a suicide intends to kill themselves, these children don't - they are as much murder victims as the others who die in these senseless attacks.
     
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    Really? There are participants on this forum who have gone so far as to argue similar acts as a necessity when faced with overwhelmingly superior military force. Given that, the chances that some participants here consider it OK is hardly so unlikely that anyone thinking so should have "mental issues".

    It is enough that a suicide bomber expects to die not necessarily that it is intended. Suicide attacks are not senseless in themselves but a military tactic whether or not a child is involved.
     
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    oh give me a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed break. show me how many times our bombs were purposely for women and children? show me where we purposely targeted women and children and the goal was to kill women and children?

    ya cant so you bring up this liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*) matra about we think killing their kids is somehow a good thing? show me where our targets are children and done on purpose please, i want straight up proof and no liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that our troops are targeting children.

    sir, if we wanted women and children dead we could have wiped out both countries of iraq and Afghanistan in a matter of days, it would have seriously been a slaughter. but no our bombs are very carefully targeted to reduce casualties as much as possible during a time of war, unlike the neandrethal psychopath muslims who praise innocent death.

    appleas and oranges, we are nothing like those psychopaths, maybe one day you will stop with the lies you like to spread and grow the (*)(*)(*)(*) up and see the truth. but i doubt that will ever happen.

    the muslims killing women and children on a daily basis and on purpose love your support, you should be very proud of yourself.
     
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    i dont watch tv, i go to work, come home and jump around the net for a lil bit and then spend time with the lil ones. sadly i have to hear about the daily psycho muslim bombing from the local music stations, then when i come on here you read about them.

    its like clockwork, everyday a muslim is gonna bomb his own in the name of their religion and so called movement lol. just now we are gonna have to hear about them sending children in to do the bombings, because they are too chicken(*)(*)(*)(*) to offer themselves. cowards.
     
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    no im reading right,apologists to the rescue somehow trying to dumb down the actions or say they are no different than anyone elses actions lol.

    and you are correct about the definition of these children, they are nothing but pawns sadly used by cowards.

    i absolutely hate people who hurt children in such ways, i dont give a (*)(*)(*)(*) who you are. but this has gone to a new low, they are copying the vietnamese tactics. its truly disgusting and i only wish the worst to those who are carrying out these kinds of attacks.
     
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    If the "it wasn't on purpose" excuse was used to explain 1 or 2 incidences then fair enough, but when it's used ad nauseum for every civilian death, it becomes meaningless. If the US military was sincere about regretting civilian deaths... they would change their MO, but they don't, they just use the same excuse every time. The Taliban kill civilians, the US kill civilians. End of.
     
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    lol no thats not end of story. i guess some people, the left minded folk primarily, forget that in every single war ever fought on this planet civilians have been sincere casualties of said wars, as in not killed on purpose but in fact being a harsh part of war, collateral damage.

    there is a difference between purposely targeting innocent civilians, and doing what you can to avoid them.

    war sucks, it has no favorites nor a specific target, the difference between us and the psychos is we aim for the psychos, the psycho muslims aim mainly for civilian targets because they are too chicken(*)(*)(*)(*) to truly take the fight to our troops.

    thats the end of the story, they are psycho.
     
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    No... we do not forget, we just can't as easily dismiss human casualties as collateral damage. If it bothers the US to take the blame for deaths they've caused, perhaps they shouldn't have spent the second half of last century and the beginning of this one at war.

    The Taliban kill civilians, the US kill civilians, what ever way you try to paint it, they are dead people and the US must bear the responsibility for those deaths.
     
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    pray to Allah that your children have a roof over their head,
    and a nice hot meal on the table.

    because you wouldn't last five minutes in those little children's world.

    pray that your kids weren't born in a country where soverign states
    exploit and tyrannize people to manage their drug trafficking
    and force artificial chaos by endorsing something called "radical islam".

    there is no such a thing as radical islam.
    there is islam and there are wackos.

    there is christianity.
    there are people like oklohama bomber
    or anders behring breivik.

    ftw - money connections between bush republicans and
    osama bin laden go way back and the political and economic
    connections have remained unbroken for 20 years. And what
    appears to be a "new" alliance with pakistan is merely a new
    manifestation of a decades-long partnership.

    http://www.rense.com/general14/bushsformer.htm
    http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm
    this clash of civilizations scenario is a joke.
    sooner you realize that,
    sooner you educate your lil ones
    about actual facts.

    it's about big bucks and world domination.
    wake up tenessee...
     
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    show me where someone on this forum has EVER justified using children in this way?

    in fact, show me where someone has justified suicide bombing.

    there are some who have argued that this strategy is a weapon of the weak against a powerful military adversary, but I think you would be hard pressed to find actual justification.
     
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    your own hatred of "the left" enables you to take this distorted interpretation of what is said by "the left".

    that is areally unhealthy mental state to be in.
     

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