“Owner-authorized” firearm technology, The next big gun control debate?

This technology worry anyone else?

 

Doesn't worry me as much as make me laugh at the dumb politicians who actually think it's going to work. If they close out one avenue for people to get guns, the market will just open up another the next day (maybe month...) I am wondering what California plans on doing with all the guns currently in circulation...what their plans are to do with those guns does worry me a bit, as California is fairly accustomed to infringing on people's civil liberties, and because they are so big, they think it gives them a right to do so.

 

Just don't use the gun in cold climates that requires gloves. Should work fine otherwise as batteries and electronics rarely fail.

 

No it does not worry me. I am glad to see that the industry is finally taking steps to build next-generation firearms that attempt to mitigate some of the issues we are experiencing. I am not sure that this will work as well as envisioned without downsizing the recoil on some of the guns, but surely there might be a more low tech approach not dissimilar to the safety band on a cigarette lighter to make it harder for little kids to pull a trigger or accidental discharges.

 

What worries me is that Queerlyfornia has decided to make of itself that place where the gov. keeps pushing and pushing, with the intent of seeing how far decent people will allow oppressive infringement before they revolt.
I think that along the way, we are more likely to see something like an implant, worn by the owner of the gun that connects to the firing mechanism via bluetooth. Of course, that implant would also broadcast the location of the gun owner all the time, and so forth....

 

Next step will be to add a 'smart' chip so that the government can deactivate any/all firearms as desired.

 

what issues have you personally experienced?

 

I have been in the physical proximity of guns that misfired, but "we" means society.

 

I have been in the proximity of cars that blow tires or drop transmissions (higher speeds on the interstate). I have been in the proximity of deer running across the road at night. Hell, I've actually been nailed in the side of a car when it was hit by a turkey. I have been in the proximity of a gang shootout and I have been exposed to misfires. So what? (*)(*)(*)(*) happens. even to the smarter ones.
And you cannot legitimately allow yourself to speak for the whole of society. This is a personal choice issue. I admire your choices and they may not be the same as mine, but they are yours, nonetheless.

 

We as a society have little kids killing themselves or other people with guns. If smart technology will keep them from being able to do that, why would you oppose it? Do you like little kids blowing each other away?

 

so, you are personally going to subsidize this, right? How much is it going to cost?
One last thing, don't even try to shame me. More kids are killed each year by stupid asses texting and driving than by guns. More kids die from parents beatings and swimming pools.......................... I don't see anyone here trying to put fingerpad codes in the swimming pool or motion detectors in cell phones. And electronics be damned..it will still be required to be locked in a safe with police kicking your doors in just to make sure that there are no live bullets stored in your home.
wanna know why, cuz libs just love violating lawful owners rights by calling them criminals while shouting "seize their guns because tomorrow they MAY be criminals"...................
More tracking equals registration. registration leads to confiscation..................

 

There has been talk of adding a feature to cars that would block texting in the cab of the car. Most states have quite a few pool related regulations, including fencing, gate alarms, and some require use of in-pool alarms that are triggered by waves in the pool.

As for trying to "shame" you, I think your shamelessness is pretty self-evident. "Responsible" gun owners who oppose gun redesigns geared at safety are a threat to the survival of gun rights.

 

Why yes, yes I do Really really silly question.

 

I have little doubt that you would rather 1,000 kids be slaughtered than you be inconvenienced in the least. Guns are the conservative Obamaphone.

 

Where do I sign up?

 

11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, Virginia 22030

 

Why yes, yes I do Really really silly statement.

 

(*)(*)(*)(*)ing Obama didn't give me my guns..............

 

He isn't going to give them back either.

 

that's real funny cuz I still have them

 

Can't give back something the constitution prevents you from taking no matter how much a person fancies themselves a dictator....eh?

 

Lets see how concerned you really are about the safety of kids.

In 2012, there were 563 people under the age of 18 murdered using a firearm (from the FBI UCR, I'll bet you thought the number was a lot larger).

In 2011 (most recent data), about 4,000 people under the age of 18 were killed in car accidents (over 7 times more than killed by firearms).

Are you going to give up your car? I have little doubt that you would rather 4,000 kids be slaughtered then you be inconvenienced in the least.



And while we are at it, 257 infants (children under the age of 1 year) died from diarhea. 563 children from guns, 257 infants from diarrhea. In the world of the CDC, gun deaths are little more significant than deaths from diarrhea. Out of a nation of 320,000,000 both are statstically trivial. Only in the gun ban propaganda are firearm deaths of children made out to be an epidemic.

 

It's called brainwashed singular focus.....Good post

 

This isnt as easy as banners claim. Anyone in the DoD that has used finger print and hand print readers knows this is not going to work in a gun. Gloves, dirt, sweat, not putting your fingers in the right place on the reader, messing up your fingerprints (makeup remover, even pineapple juice can wear away some skin) can cause problems.

Look carefully at your hand the next time you wrap your palm around a firearm, notice the palm. On some people the palm is flat and smooth on the grip, on others the palm is on the grip but the skin is wrinkled, on some because of the size of the hand and the handgun there can be a small gap between the palm and grip.

Add the recoil of a firearm, recoil is hard on equipment. Do you ever wonder why an Aimpoint or Trijicon or AccuPoint scope costs so much? A good bit of that cost goes into making a scope that can withstand recoil after recoil after recoil for years without losing zero, causing glass to shift, a screw to back off, a wire or fiberoptic to break or disconnect. If you have ever used a light or laser out near the muzzle and fired a lot of rounds, you'll see the difference between the cheap stuff and the expensive stuff.

If this magic gun control is going to be cheap, its going to break or not work very well in the real world. If the magic is going to work and be reliable, its going to be expensive.


And then.....how do you program this magic technology to identify the correct person? I can't imagine the banners will allow it to be easy and just let anyone do it at home. Banners will say if its an easy-DIY then a gun thief might steal your gun and quickly reprogram it. Banners will want you to go to the FFL, only the FFL will have the right tool/software to program the gun. I can see filling out a form, getting a background check, and of course there will be a fee.

And knowing the govt and banners, if you have to go to the FFL, I'll bet that magic software to program the gun just accidentally-on-purpose keeps a record of your hand prints. The software will be very hush-hush to prevent some intrepid techno geek from figuring out how to program the gun to accept any handprint. Every night when the program goes on the ATF site to "check for updates" it will upload all the data from the day. The govt will then have all our handprints to keep with all our emails, phone calls, and financial data.

And then...... how many authorized users will be allowed? There has to be at least 2 - I have 2 hands each with different prints. What about your spouse, children, other people in the house? Do they all need to get a background check to get "authorized" to use the firearm?

 

How many children are injured in firearms related accidents, versus, say bicycles.