‘Black Voters for Trump’ To Launch on Friday, Nov. 8

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  1. US Conservative

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    Its not blacks saying this, its just leftists.
     
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    Yes I know. That is what makes it BIZARRE!
     
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    Some might call it the soft bigotry of low expectations.

    I call it racist.
     
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    Ironic PROJECTION duly noted FTR!
     
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    Yes, I am.
     
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    OK thanks but colour me confused. You keep asking posters how many African Americans they have gone out and spoken to about how they vote, and why, and saying they have no insight yet claiming you know the mindset of all African American voters.

    May I ask how many you have gone out and spoken to, know or have even met?
     
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    At no point have I asked people the highlighted question. Not once. Easy enough for you to check that.

    As for the rest, I have spoken to numerous African Americans about their politics, several of whom are personal friends. I have also read what black Dem voters say about why they vote the way they do. I take what they say about the way they vote seriously, as I do for GOP voters, some of whom are also among my friends.

    It is clear from the way GOP supporters talk about black Dem voters that they either never talk to them or ignore what they say. That is how I knew exactly what people on this thread were going to say, right down to the choice of terms. It is the same stuff I have been hearing for year. Exactly the same. It has absolutely nothing to do with understanding black voters & everything to do with refusing to understand them. That, in turn, is a fundamental part of the reason black voters don't vote GOP.

    Until the GOP & its supporters work out the difference between talking to & talking about they aren't going to make much of a change to black voting patterns. Personally I'm not convinced they much care....which is also part of the problem.
     
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    I missed this earlier.

    I'm curious, did you check the dates on the articles? Anything of any electoral significance happen since they were published? Let me give you a hint, almost 119 million people voted and under 10% of African American voters supported the GOP.

    So, what does that say about the accuracy of those articles? What does it say about all the GOP supporters who got excited about black voters 'walking away' from the Dems? It tells me that they were wrong, which makes the current faux excitement over black voters supposedly coming over to Trump a bit chuckleworthy. We'll see what happens in a year.
     
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    I guess I misunderstood? *shrug
     
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    This is a classic
    You are correct actually it was 8% that was then this is now, I believe there will be a bigger number.
    The democrats must get 85% of the black vote, they dont believe thats secure anymore with more blacks becoming successful and well educated. Thats why they want unlimited illegal immigration and want to give them everything for free on OUR MONEY to encourage them to come.
     
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    Yes, that quote still works to make people cringe and repel voters. There are lots of comments based in delusion on this thread but the notion that it wasn't a boorish, parody of a soundbite has me ROFL. Are you trolling the board?

     
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    Democrats will get 90 percent of the black vote as long as clamorous imbeciles who ostensibly want to shift the political tide, continue to remain out of touch with black voters (and reality).

     
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    Thread win! Does cognitive dissonance (or feigned ignorance) lead to their farcical statements?

     
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    I disagree its not about anyone being out of touch with black voters, its about black voters drinking the democrat kool aid. Democrats promise blacks the world and they give them

    Chicago, Philly, Baltimore, La, they give them sewers in democrat run cities that NEVER IMPROVE no matter how much they raise taxs. Cant blame republicans or white people for that misery, its mostly all black run and in some cases it is all black.

    VOTE FOR ME AND ILL GIVE TO YOU FOR FREE the democrat rally call.
     
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    That's out of touch. People like you are one reason that I don't vote Republican. Most black people don't live in huge, metropolitan, inner cities, don't Iive in poverty and vote Democratic. Black people like me who don't want or qualify for free stuff vote Democratic. By the way, Jews, Asians and Hispanics also vote Democratic. Are all of these groups being duped or are you being duped? Educate yourself: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/503744/

     
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    Correct. It is not about Republicans being "out of touch" with black voters ---- it is about which message resonates (Democrat vs Republican) and it is about overcoming the psychology of dependence which has been drilled into blacks by Democrats for generations, and it is about overcoming the simple power of habit ("I vote Democrat like my Dad and his Dad and his Dad's dad, why should I change?")

    On the surface the Democrats' message may sound easier and safer ---- we'll take care of you; your situation is not your fault, the Republicans will do baaaad things to you. But look what it leads to for large sectors of the black population: generational poverty and dependence, slums, fatherless children, a standard of living most of us couldn't tolerate for a month.

    The Republicans' message is deeper, more long term, and takes some drive and a leap of faith ---- we'll create an environment that encourages job growth so you can support yourself, we'll provide a growing economy where you can thrive on your own, independence and personal responsibility can come with a price but they can also give great rewards.

    Maybe Republicans need to work on their messaging, I don't know, among other things I'm not a Republican. Seeing more blacks come out in support of Trump and/or Republicans can only help. Black role models like Ben Carson ----rather than some thug gang rapper or a half baked athlete---- can only help. Shining a light on the race-baiters and identity-politickers and their manipulative self-serving tactics ----so people can see them for the cockroaches they are---- can only help. Anyone/everyone showing that there is a different/better way can only help.

    It is offensive and sad to see how some posters here view blacks like they are too stupid, too brainwashed, too dependent, too hopeless and helpless to see when there is a better path offered to them. That may be true of some of them ----and no doubt some poorer whites too---- but I don't believe for one second that it is true of all blacks in general, or that it can't change.

    Black voters have been voting Democrat........forever? And what have Democrats really done for them? In contrast, the black community has thrived the most under Trump. That's something any smart black voter should be thinking about.
     
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    and according to yous they be no black leftist...The gift that keeps giving, extreme bias...
     
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    Typical.. Democrats Claim Blacks cant do anything then they call others racist.....
     
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    How many white presidents had their location of birth questioned and investigated for eight years?
     
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    Have you ever been to the United States?
     
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    Yes, you did. Go back and read what I asked, then read how you described what I asked. Not the same thing. That you got my question wrong was further made clear by the question you then asked me, something I have not asked anyone.

    There is nothing difficult or tricky about this.
     
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    It's ironic that someone from Australia knows more about African-Ameican voters than Americans on this thread. Your commentary is outstanding and spot on.

     

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