‘Blue’ wave for GOP? BLUE collar workers overwhelmingly say lives BETTER under Trump

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  1. US Conservative

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    Wages aren't the only measure for the "forgotten man".

    Taxes are down (crumbs), consumer confidence and the stock market up, blue collar workers are more optimistic, and unemployment is down.
     
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    WHERE certainly not here in Pa. where the inflation Dirty Donald has brought with his policies have far exceeded the meager gains of the tax cuts for the working class.The wealthy have made out like bandits as they usually always do.
     
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    And there is the individual bias, which you are demonstrating here.

    This is a now a referendum on Trump, and if he keeps screwing up, it will be the GOP candidates who pay the losing price.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How did you vote in 2016?
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most of what I stated was fact, not opinion.

    Mid terms favor republicans.

    The left is very much wanting to make these mid terms a referendum on Trump-yes.

    The problem is they aren't really offering their own solutions and Trump isn't doing as bad as the media/dems said he would.

    I posted a CNN segment the other day on "Trump Democrats" who say the "scandals" like Russia and stormy daniels are a side show. They know its a show and don't care about it. They do care that their retirement investments are rising and that taxes are down.

    Watch the video...
     
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    Yeah, I don't agree with that either. Although the Free Beacon CAN be ignored. It's a trash blog.

    Trump is making the mid terms about Trump, not the Democrats. It's always about him, and nothing else.
     
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    Well, it just goes to show how many ordinary folks will fall for the same old flim flam!

    Their taxes are down so little that they can barely afford a nice dinner out on the savings, while Wall Street walks off with the jackpot.

    And few of them have significant retirement investments.
     
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    If Democrats are hoping for a blue wave, they'll have hope a lot more illegals cross the border and fill up a few more cemeteries. Those votes could swing the elections. :roflol:
     
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    Republicans who Trump campaigns with do very well.

    The media and dems have certainly made everything about him-so be it.

    Trumps been doing what he said he would-honoring his campaign promises and the economy is booming.
    Manufacturing and agriculture are benefiting.

    If its too subtle for you-Trump/Republicans are winning not by attacking democrat strongholds like California, they are winning by appealing to the heartland. Dems are appealing to marxists.

    All week, Trumps been campaigning in those areas.
     
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    I don't get that one either. If tax cuts are so great and pay for themselves, why not have another one? Then our economy should be even greater. Heck, go for a third tax cut, the more the better. Let's have people keep even more of their own money. What's the problem, conservatives?
     
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    They are also pardoning felons to get them to vote.

    Thats how democrats do.
     
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    Trump has said there will be a second round of tax cuts-and I expect there will be.

    We can be sure democrats will want to raise taxes to pay for their social schemes.

    Good luck with that.
     
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    Well, well, isn't he the fiscal hawk. No spending cuts, but another round of tax cuts? What's the deficit going to be? $2 trillion per year in good times? His debt will make Obama look like a choir boy.

    I can see, of course, that he would like to give himself another round of stimulus, just like the first one, so he can boast about the magic Trump economy. However, vote buying through the public credit card is all it is. Expectedly so from the king of debt. That's how he got rich, by using leverage through other people's money. They took the risk, he the reward. The way he runs the country is no different.
     
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    The Free Beacon citing a Harvard Harris poll. So ignoring the Free Beacon......doesn't make the Harvard Harris poll go away.
     
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    The Poll is ignoring the Trump Factor.

    The Trump base can wiggle, squiggle, and giggle all it wants, but this election is turning out to be a referendum on Trump. I would imagine the farther candidates in the GOP move into the mainstream and away from Trump, the better they will do.

    De Santis with his "monkey" quote (not deliberate at all but very, very stupid) and as a former mod of "Tea Party" online with its racist forum is an example of someone affiliated with Trump. He might lose to Gillum of all people.

    Kelli Ward and her stupidity about McCain, which echoes Trump shenanigans, is not helping her campaign.

    What an amazing year.

    Trump is the X factor, podjos. He is unlike any of us have seen ever in American politics, and he has proven that all the rules are out of the window. The more he is involved the greater the vulnerability of Trump base and far right candidates.
     
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    Dude-no it does not. You are asking them to ignore what they are seeing with their own eyes, because of silly side hows. Why is it wrong for them to care more about better jobs, a stronger economy, etc? Those are real tangible things.

    Bill Clinton understood it was all about the economy. Most moderate dems want that.

    Very specifically-Trump has been about Main Street, not Wall street-and he's doing what he said he would.

    The far left, will bitterly cling to narratives nobody believes, and it will offer nothing to those moderates-which is why enough of them voted for Trump to get him elected.
     
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    They are just desperate, MMC.

    BTW-how you doing man!
     
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    You are just spitting out canned lines.

    The dems want to make it a referendum on Trump-but they aren't offering anything of their own.

    How many years is it going to take you to figure out that all of the hissing and spitting isn't working?

    You are correct that Trump is unlike anything we have seen before-perhaps the first "modern" candidate of the new political era, with Obama/Hillary the last of the old.

    What I can tell you is the rules don't seem to apply to him like they did with older politicians-and so old tactics (like calling the TEA party racist) dont work.

    Dems never had a big playbook, and now those few plays aren't working. Where do they go from here?
    THEY don't know.
     
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    Again, you are in the bubble.

    Trump cut spending.

    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/334768-here-are-the-66-programs-eliminated-in-trumps-budget

    What Trump proposed
    cutting in his 2019 budget

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/msar-fy2019.pdf

    And btw, even with the tax cuts and program eliminations, Federal revenue is UP-the exact opposite of the bubble many dems are in.



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    https://www.investors.com/politics/...hs-are-trumps-tax-cuts-paying-for-themselves/
     
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    Like old Top Sarge said, green is the only color that counts. He was black.
     
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    The Anti-Trump resistance isn't just about Trump. It's a message to anybody who doesn't have long time certified swamp credentials:

    Run and we'll try to crucify you with everything we possibly can. Win, and we will dish out even more.
     
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    Of course they are.....the Demos know Trumps support with Blacks has gone up in double digits. That Trump is getting more support from Latinos and Asians. Blue Dog Democrats still supporting Trump.

    Then you have # Walkaway.....with more and more bailing on the Demos.




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    All is well.....as it can be.
     
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    USConservative, MMC, and the rest can yell all they want, but GOP candidates who are cozying up to Trump are at real risk of defeat.

    If they won't see the trees for the leaves, tough for them. The Trump swamp creatures are food for the serving trough.

    If the Trump base continue believing Fake Alt Right Media (FARM), which is deliberately misinterpreting or lying about MSM materials, too bad on them.
     
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