‘Decisions are imminent’ on charges in Trump’s effort to overturn 2020 election

Reality shows that it was. His own staff admitted it was withheld. How the **** have you not done enough homework to know this yet? You seem to be the only human on the planet that doesn't now this already.

 

I do know what he claimed. I'm just also functionally literate and understand the limits of executive power.

 

Of course malicious prosecution can result in a lawsuit for damages.

 

Where? Where did Biden say that? Show us. You can't and you won't.

I apparently can't say what that makes you but it doesn't change what you are.

 

I know EXACTLY what he claimed.

I also know it is NOT what you are claiming.

 

It WAS withheld and the House investigation showed it.

https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/timeline-how-trump-withheld-ukraine-aid/

• June 21, 2019
  
  The State Department tells the Office of Management and Budget it plans to spend the $141 million.
• July 3, 2019
  
  The Office of Management and Budget blocks the State Department from proceeding.
• July 10, 2019
  
  At a White House meeting, Sondland tells the head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council that Ukraine must say it is conducting the investigations of Biden’s son and the 2016 election that Trump seeks, before Trump will meet with Zelensky. Zelensky’s aides respond in following weeks that he doesn’t want to be pulled into domestic American politics.
• July 12, 2019
  
  All Ukraine aid is blocked at the President’s direct request, according to a message sent by a top White House official to OMB.
• July 18, 2019
  
  A junior official at OMB informs more than a dozen officials at multiple agencies during a government teleconference that Defense Department aid to Ukraine is being withheld at the direction of the president, without providing any explanation.
• July 19, 2019
  
  Sondland tells Zelensky in a phone call that he must initiate and announce the desired investigations, according to Sondland’s testimony.
• July 23, 2019
  
  At a high-level government meeting on Ukraine, defense officials in particular raise concerns about the legality of the aid suspension. Those concerns are restated at a similar meeting on July 26.
• July 25, 2019
  
  Volker tells a top aide to Zelensky it’s imperative that Zelensky say he is announcing the investigations, if he wants a visit to Washington. Zelensky then speaks with Trump on the telephone, saying he wants to continue military cooperation with America and that “we are almost ready to buy” more anti-tank missiles. Trump responds that “I would like you to do us a favor though,” and lists the investigations he wants. Ukrainian officials in Washington immediately raise questions with U.S. officials about the status of the military aid.
• July 30, 2019
  
  Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper tells other top officials at a high-level meeting on Ukraine that legally, the administration will have to inform Congress if it wants to suspend the aid. No notification is made.
• July 31, 2019
  
  Trump again speaks with Putin on the phone, and Ukraine is among their topics.
• August 2019
  
  Ukrainian embassy officials express concerns about the status of the aid program in conversations with Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, the National Security Council officer responsible for Ukraine, and with Catherine Croft, the State Department’s special adviser for Ukraine, according to their testimony.
• Aug. 9, 2019
  
  Two congressional committee leaders tell OMB in a letter that withholding the State Department funding for Ukraine may be illegal.
• Aug. 12, 2019
  
  A CIA officer who worked at the White House and then returned to the agency files a whistleblower complaint alleging improper White House dealings surrounding the Ukraine aid program.
• Aug. 9 -13, 2019
  
  Volker and Sondland draft the text of an acceptable statement for Zelensky to read about the requested investigations, with the help of Giuliani. But a top aide to Zelensky balks.
• Mid-August 2019
  
  National Security Adviser John Bolton meets with Trump to try to persuade him to resume military aid to Ukraine. He is not successful and resigns on Sept. 10 after multiple disagreements with Trump.
• Aug. 19, 2019
  
  Two additional congressional committee leaders urge OMB in a letter to release the State Department funding for Ukraine.
• Aug. 28, 2019
  
  The withholding of military aid to Ukraine becomes public in a Politico article. But the article quotes an unnamed senior official attributing the decision only to Trump’s desire to ensure “U.S. interests are being prioritized” and other countries are “paying their fair share” – the first of many different explanations offered by the White House to explain the interruption.
• Aug. 30, 2019
  
  Sondland privately tells Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., he thinks the reason for withholding the aid is Trump’s desire to force the investigations. Trump privately confirms this to Johnson the following day, according to Johnson.
• Sept. 1, 2019
  
  Sondland tells a top Zelensky aide, Andriy Yermak, that U.S. assistance is unlikely to flow until Ukraine provided the desired public statement, according to Sondland. Yermak disputes hearing this, however.
• Early September 2019
  
  Zelensky makes an appointment to appear on CNN, where he plans to make the desired statement.
• Sept. 10
  
  House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., demands to see the whistleblower complaint.
• Sept. 11
  
  OMB releases the Ukraine aid.

 

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Please do enjoy your Flavor-aid!

 

inadequate rebuttal; no counter argument offered.

 

Feels more third world to say once youre president you’re immune from prosecution for life.

 

Could a former president kill someone so long as they convince their base they were framed? Where is the line? 4 years in a job should not be a lifetime of criminal immunity.

 

Comes down to if it’s believed he actually thought what he said was true. Seems odd he asked for exactly what he needed to win, and looks more corrupt than if he just called to tell them saw evidence of fraud.
I mean, you’re not making the case he was just calling as a concerned citizen and would’ve done the same in a state he won….right???

 

Clinton Clinton Clinton
This about trump asking to find exactly the votes he needed to win, not a guy elected when people still had pagers.

 

The policy? So it was policy, not a private scheme.

 

Lol he lied and said trump cared about corruption. I agree. That’s clearly a lie.

 

Cue the violins and the “he didn’t even draw a salary!, what a mench!”

 

Lol he drew a half million dollar write off m

 

This doesn’t help your case, dude.
Vindman said that he put that he put (content about “trying to root out [Ukrainian] corruption”), in because that would have been “consistent with US policy”), he was trying to give the President the benefit of the doubt.

If that aspect is cut, then Trump’s request for an “announcement” of an investigation (into Joe and Hunter Biden) is even more egregious.
This cuts the knees of the “oh we was only looking for Ukrainian corruption, that’s what we was talking about!” defense.

Own goal.

 

Appreciate the effort, but do you REALLY think a fact-denier is going to read any of that.... or is capable of doing so?

You left out that at least one former (respected) GOP Senator said the House proved the case, but didn't think it was a removable action. Bet he's rethinking that position in retirement

https://www.axios.com/2020/02/02/trump-impeachment-trial-sen-alexander

 

Odd is an odd way to put that...

If there's an indictment for interfering with an election/election official, that's the smocking gun

As this guy accurately said at the time, even a child would understand it (but it's apparently beyond MAGA)...

https://theconversation.com/trumps-...less-incentive-to-do-anything-about-it-152643

 

LOLOL! You didnt read what you copied and pasted.

OMB releases the Ukraine aid.

 

Right after the White House found out about the whistleblower’s report, yes, funny, that.

 

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Delaying aid isnt witholding Einstein. All irrelevant as Zelensky was never even aware of any delay of aid or even any connection between the aid and the requests.
AND we now know with hindsight and Hunters laptop that Trump was trying to expose actual government corruption while Bidens threat to withold aid was to hide that very same corruption.

 

Two things.

1. Trump said repeatedly in the phone call that he had won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes. If you want to speak to what he was thinking that is what he thought. He thought that he won by hundreds of thousands of votes but all he wanted GA officials to claim is that he won by 11,000 odd votes. In other words, even if you want to claim he's not guilty because he thought he actually won and was only looking for them to find fraudulent votes the vote total he says he wanted them to claim was different from what he actually thought he won by. He wanted them to report a total that even HE believed was false. That is illegal.

2. Even if all he was asking for was for a change he thought he deserved, he was asking for the change AFTER the vote had been certified. After certification any change to the vote total is, by definition, election fraud. He was asking them to commit election fraud...it didn't matter what he THOUGHT the to total was supposed to be, the vote total had been certified. That is the point of certification. It locks in the result and to change it after certification would be a crime. He was asking them to commit a crime.

 

Really, telling the State Department NOT to spend the money is not withholding? Is there a time constraint on what constitutes "withholding"?
It doesn't matter what Zelensky was, or was not, aware of. The money was to be spent...Trump held up the spending of the money with no authority to do so.

And again, as I have shown, the US threat to withhold loan guarantees wasn't to hide corruption but because the prosecutor was helping HIDE corruption.

 

55 days after it was supposed to be released. It was held up for 55 days under orders of Trump when he had absolutely no authority to do that.