‘Freedom!’ Thousands of Cubans take to the streets to demand the end of dictatorship

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  1. a better world

    a better world Well-Known Member

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    Wrong. The embargo proves just how resilient the socialist revolution was,
    among those who supported the revolution against the RW capitalist dictatorship which the socialist revolution overthrew.


    That comment (from your linked article in the RW rag 'The Red State') is mere ideological BS; of course a synthesis of capitalism and socialism is achievable.

    Look at Denmark.




    Meanwhile Bernie Sanders - a 'democratic socialist' - wants an economy that works for all, and has the policies to achieve it.

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    So those Cuban ideologues in Florida might have to get use to socialism in the US yet...
     
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  2. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's simple, and very old. Cuba bad, US good.

    It is a safe bet that you buy into every false narrative promoted by government, from JFK and MLK and RFK to Gulf Of Tonkin to TWA 800 to Operation Covid and Weapons of Mass Distraction.

    The media blitz on the Cuban 'demonstrations' gives it away. No talk at all about the possible harm caused by many years of sanctions against Cuba, not a word.
     
  3. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, and since you object, I take it that your version is the opposite: US bad, Cuba gooood.

    Does "Cuba bad, US good" have to be a government narrative, or can it also a personal opinion (even if you don't agree)? Lot of Cubans seem to agree with communism being worse than US

    Don't bet too much. I know gambling can be fun, but you don't want to lose all your money.

    Operation Covid.... LOL

    Blame America when everything else fails.

    Sanctions are DESIGNED to hurt the target nation. Most people know this.
     
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  4. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Unfortunately, the CIA has a long and fairly successful record of overthrowing legitimate governments all over the globe spanning decades.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Can you imagine that there is middle ground? Can you imagine that somewhere between the extremes of Cuba bad, US good there is some middle ground? Something more realistic?
     
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    Go right ahead. The protesters were saying liberty, liberty, liberty. Not covid, covid, covid. Forgive me but I'll believe them.
     
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    Legitimacy is in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps we just say the U.S. likes to get involved with other countries' business. It is a practice they should reconsider.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would they call for more covid? That doesn't even make any sense.

    Both claims are correct. Covid broke the camels back and turned the wrath of the people against the government which is failing to provide for them. If you want to me a commie government then you assume the responsibility to provide for everyone. That is the commie promise, and their failed. Things were bad before, and they got a whole lot worse when covid shut down tourism and other and pretty much everything else. Now they have had about and call for freedom from the failed government. Of course this is something they have wanted for a long time but now the timing is good with the Castros out. This will test the new leadership.
     
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    British political and international relations analyst Tom Fowdy tweeted on Tuesday, "The US strangles socialist countries with sanctions and then propagates a narrative saying 'socialism doesn't work' - and so many people fall for it."
     
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    Of course they're missing, they're in jail. Where would they be? But instead of worrying about protesters in other countries, let's worry about our own. They've been locked up and waiting to go to trial for the grave crime of trespassing since January 6th.
     
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    I'm curious. Can you list some governments for us that you consider illegitimate?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When they say the rich paying higher taxes in this country, they mean those who make a higher wage than the average - but most are not really rich. The rich are those who have used the loop holes in our tax regulations and paid no taxes. As an example, someone in my family had 3 kids in top private schools, and 2 homes in the most prestigious areas in the country, and yet paid no taxes - and that was 40 years ago. Today he's worth quite a fortune.

    The best would be to throw out all the tax books and their loop holes, and have a simple flat tax together with a luxury tax that will increase in percentage in relation to the price of the item. But would the tax lawyers and accountants in this country ever allow such a thing? They would fight it tooth and nail.

     
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    Of course it doesn't make sense. The chant was libertad, libertad, libertad. You can certainly believe that is Spanish for liberty or freedom.

    60 years of misery broke the camel's back.
     
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    But socialism doesn't work That has been proven over and over.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    It appears that the Biden government is illegitimate.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I wonder if they're being paid to protest? I know they were paid in Kiev before the coup, as were the kids that were protesting in Russia for Navalny. I know that Moscow warns the countries on its southern flank if it sees diplomatic cargo planes arriving needlessly from the US.

    Then again, maybe the planes are not packed with dollar bills. It could be Cokes or hamburgers.



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    One never knows!
     
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    Whether it works or not, we're heading there. What do you think the Great Reset is. Oh that's right, the new saying is 'Building Back Better'. Regardless, we're heading towards a one world government owned and controlled by the corporate 'elite'.

    This pandemic was a God send to them since so many small business' went bankrupt, and could be bought up easily by the mega corporations.
     
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    And so the revolutionaries overthrew the RW capitalist dictatorship for a LW communist dictatorship. What they missed most after the revolution was their jobs.
     
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    The first real clue to this scenario taking place was the taking down of the World Trade Center twin towers and replacing it with One World Trade Center tower.
     
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    The US strangles countries that have dictators. Those countries most likely have socialist economies which makes it easier for dictators to control the people. Maybe you can name one truly socialist country that has a democratic government the US is sanctioning?
     
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    Biden just recently said he's going to have some Executive Orders promoting competition. I wonder what they were
     
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    Yes, they have managed to do that, but I can't think of an example of them doing that where the results did not ultimately harm the interests of the USA.

    So, IMO, the Cuban tyrants, like those who rule Venezuela have little to worry about.
     
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    The EC and Congress selected Biden. IMO, that makes him the legitimate POTUS absent a clear bipartisan consensus that the election was both rigged and the result unacceptable to Congress. Very unlikely.
     
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    Colombian Vice President, whose police forces have murdered 75 protesters in less than 3 months, urges Cuba (where one protester was killed in clashes with police) to “respect to the right of protest”.
     
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