‘Winter is coming’: Allies fear Trump isn’t prepared for gathering legal storm

I have something much better: common sense.

No. Don't you understand what I said? Obviously my point is that Mexico didn't stop them. Why, I can't say. Probably they just quietly passed through without notice.

That is almost similar to what you said when you said "Mexico was happy to see them leave. Since Trump acted like such an ass to them, there was no reason for them to assist the US in blocking them." ... -except that common sense would tell you that Mexico didn't suspend national policy in this one case because they were pissed at Trump.

 

1) its one poll.. Outliers exist
2) from your poll
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Its ****ing amazing how all these polls find 35-37 "independents" for their polls but they never show up to vote.

 

Every. Single. Day. 3 years now...

 

Like I said, you are free to believe as you wish.

Then we are in agreement; Mexico didn't stop them. If anything they urged them along.

Now that they were stopped at the border, has Mexico welcomed them with free food, housing and jobs as Mexico's newest citizens?

 

This could be a case of the last man standing. Got any fav's you don't wanna lose...Comey, Strozk, Clinton?

 

Unlikely. When push comes to shove, everyone in Washington is looking to save their own ass and will actually band together to throw someone under the bus.

 

So far, the only election meddling and conspiracy I've seen from Americans, has come from the Clinton campaign, the FBI, and the mainstream media.

 

The Trump base can deny the facts all they want, but that changes nothing.

 

In super patriotic California. She probably would have done as well in Venezuela and Kenya too.

 

So you think the US intelligence agencies are lying? Do you think they are all "deep state" traitors to their oath and duty?

https://www.businessinsider.com/sen...ee-report-russia-election-interference-2018-7

• The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday released a bipartisan report about the US intelligence community's January 2017 assessment of Russia's election meddling.
• The committee found that the assessment was a "sound intelligence product" and that the conclusions were "reached in a professional and transparent manner."
• The findings fly in the face of President Donald Trump's and his allies' attacks on the intelligence community's credibility and what they perceive as bias against them.

https://www.burr.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/SSCI ICA ASSESSMENT_FINALJULY3.pdf
...the Committee notes that, as is the case with all intelligence questions, information continues to be gathered and analyzed. The Committee believes the conclusions of the ICA are sound, and notes that collection and analysis subsequent to the ICA's publication continue to reinforce its assessments. The Committee will remain vigilant in its oversight of the ongoing challenges presented by foreign nations attempting to secretly influence U.S. affairs.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3254237/Russia-Hack-Report.pdf
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.
 We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
 Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
 Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals. Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
 Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
 We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
 Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
 Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences. We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

 

I apologize for earlier mischaracterizing you, Max. I think you are libertarian classically not a Trump baser. Mea culpa.

 

Not to mention the estimated cost is some $37 Trillion...

 

Not too mention it is not 37 trillion.

 

Its not that much.. Most of the healthcare dollar is used by the elderly and premature babies... about 60 cents actually. Raising the cap on payroll taxes would help.

 

I thought it was Kamala Harris, unaccomplished and
handed a seat in the Senate.

Both Gavin and Ms. K are Hillary, Feinstein, Pelosi Democrats. Old Left.

Although coming late, I do believe Work For A Living Democrats
are going to abandon the old Left.
That is to say the Old Left will be attacked on two sides.
The New Left, Bernie et al, and the Work For A Living Democrats.
Maybe Gavin and Ms. K have a foot in each camp.
Maybe not because it was the old left that installed them.

Witness: California does elect Republican governors.
I think Pete Wilson was treated badly.
Well he wasn't from the Bay Area Dynastic Polemical bosses.
Arnold was amusing but, really accomplished nada.
Too bad about the Hydrogen Highway.

The Democratic Party is going to feel a storm too!​

Moi

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Blame the Trump base.

 

So does yours.

 

Not to mention their even more radical elements that are taking the seats of establishment Dems.

They're under fire from all sides.

 

YES

We may be experiencing a bipartisan realignment of voters' party preference.
I suspect the Work For A Living voter preferred Bernie and Trump.

POINT: It is bipartisan.


Remember




The Work for a Living voter is the forgotten voter who is now being heard
when presented with alternatives. And their party loyalty ain't that deep.


Moi

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The latest Democratic Party turmoil,
was Moi right above or just correct?


Boston City Councilor Ayanna Pressley speaks to supporters at a campaign event on July 28 near Boston.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-...n-primary-2-014545214.html?.tsrc=bell-brknews

Another Dem upset: Pressley beats
10-term Rep. Capuano in Boston primary​

In the latest blow to establishment Democrats, Boston City Councilor Ayanna Pressley defeated Rep. Michael Capuano for the nomination in Massachusetts’ 7th District.

Pressley will become the first black woman to represent Massachusetts in Congress, after serving as the first black woman to serve on the city council. Capuano was a 10-term incumbent, representing a district covering an area stretching southwest from Boston. Capuano conceded Tuesday evening.

Will the Democratic Party experience further, White Flight? Consider these two.



Why would any sane White Person be part of the Democratic Party where
a White Person does not receive equal respect? I mean unless they were gay or rabid feminist or something

Moi

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One second hand comment, uncorroborated, supports the Fake Alt Right Media lie that LBJ ever said such a thing.

Yep, you want blacks to vote GOP, you just keep insulting them.