“No One Is Above The Law”

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    Regarding the idiot trump’s certainty that he is above the law, New York Law School professor Rebecca Roiphe stated, “No one is above the law.”

    Professor Roiphe is not the only expert in law who understands this principle, she is among many other authorities in United States law who assert, “Prosecutorial independence is fundamental to American democracy.”

    Professor Roiphe’s statements were in response to the misinformation Rudy Giuliani was spewing during his interview on ABC’s “This Week”, after he was asked if the idiot trump would cooperate were Mueller’s people to lay subpoenas on him.

    In addition to saying the idiot trump “could refuse to comply with a subpoena to answer questions from the special counsel investigating Russian election interference,” Giulliani also said, “that he [the idiot trump] wouldn't have to talk even if subpoenaed.” And, “He’s the President of the United States. We can assert the same privilege as other presidents have.” (The Supreme Court ruled in a case involving Richard Nixon that the President could not use executive privilege to refuse a subpoena for White House tapes.)

    There is apparently another ploy the idiot trump could try, ducking a subpoena using the legal theory, that, as President, he has complete control over the Department of Justice. Happily, this would do nothing but prove rational Americans correct, that the idiot trump and his swamp rats are corrupt, guilty of treason, and obstructing justice.

    The idiot trump’s many, many mindless minions, of course, believe themselves to be legal experts as well as experts in all other subjects, so they will quickly concur the idiot trump, as President, is indeed above the law. However, these same people will also assert Bill Clinton, as President, was NOT above the law.

    Another option is available to the idiot trump, he could go ahead and sit down with Mueller, but invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. (Reminder: At an Iowa campaign rally in September 2016, the idiot trump said, “ ‘The mob takes the Fifth. If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?’ ”)

    As the idiot trump’s attorney and “fixer”, Michael Cohen said he intends to invoke his Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate himself in a lawsuit filed against the president by porn star Stormy Daniels.

    As the reminder above shows, the idiot trump believes no one who is innocent need invoke the Fifth Amendment, and condemned former Hillary Clinton staffers who took the Fifth during the investigation of her private email server.

    But, as so often happens with conservatives’ selective memory loss, the idiot trump has totally forgotten he used his Fifth Amendment privilege to avoid answering questions about “other women” during his divorce from first wife Ivana Trump.

    As a former U.S. prosecutor himself, Giulliani worked with Robert Mueller, and has either forgotten, due to his advancing years, the capabilities of the special counsel, or, he is serving as the idiot trump’s loyal attorney as a tactic to gain the support of the idiot trump’s mindless minions for his own run for the presidency in 2020. Naturally, this will be after the idiot trump is removed from office.

    Regardless of the direction the idiot trump and his legal team decide to take, Mueller will continue tightening the noose. And, if the idiot trump does finally meet with Mueller, it will be a verbal bloodbath, where the idiot trump incriminates himself and his swamp rats, and opens himself to countless charges of perjury.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...r-subpoena/ar-AAwQ7cp?ocid=spartandhp&ffid=gz





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    7 more years ! I worry if you will make it... and yep , sorry you can't indict a sitting prez. I wish you could see the huge smile on my face ! I hope Trump tweets this morning. . ...
     
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    independent from what? The electorate?

    Over and over government's power is restricted without question in our Constitution. Proxecutorial independence is anathema to liberty and democracy. No part of government, no branch, can be truly independent, each has a check. Balance.
     
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    At least they now admit he is there President. You know you have one the debate, when the opposition resorts to name calling.
     
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    Actually, the idea of indicting a sitting President has not been tried in court. Bill Clinton thought about it, and decided to agree to testify.

    Trump isn't that smart. And since he could care less about his office, or the long term implications of his actions (which he doesn't understand or care about), he's very likely to test fate.

    Of course, it wouldn't be all that hard to trick snowflake Donnie into an interview by appealing to his eggshell fragile ego.
     
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    This is very important,now ... listen up.Judicial Watch has finally
    learned after many months of FOIA requests about key aspects in
    how Hillary Clinton used the State Dept. and especially Huma Abedin
    to keep her from being exposed for Criminally breaking the law in regards
    to her still missing 33,ooo E-mails.The F.B.I. and James Comey at
    Justice did recover many of those 33,ooo but Judicial Watch finally
    got a batch that Hillary and her lawyers Did Not Want anyone to see.
    10 classified E-mails regarding Middle East policy.
    Communications with Anthony Blair and top officials at the State dept.
    " Further indication and further demonstration of the massive violation of
    National Security law relating to the handling of classified information that
    Hillary Clinton knowingly engaged in. " Says Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch.
    Which also means James Comey is a flat out Deep State crook,as well
    for keeping this under lock and key and his exoneration front for
    Hillary Clinton.
     
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    I'm pretty sure about one thing , old donnie us a hell of a lot smarter then you and your fellow haters . I think that's my favorite thing about President Trump, he is always 3 or 4 steps ahead of you . I find great joy in it , you guys gotta be frustrated by now. Gotta b! Lol... Oh you guys...
     
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    Clinton didn't get to decide. Starr drew up an indictment but decided to recommend impeachment instead.
     
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    Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Eric Holder, Lynch and Obama are all factually above the law. There is obviously a justice system for us and another for them.
     
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    You will notice what the Court also said in that ruling.

    The president can be compelled to respond to a subpoena but at a time that is convenient for him to do so.

    They refused to comment on any sort of time frame whatsoever.

    This is the Court giving the president the authority (while in office) to avoid any lawsuits or any legal cases he wants.

    They don't go away but he can suspend them indefinitely until his time is up.

    The Court realized (correctly) that legal proceedings could be used politically against a president and took that tool off the table for the opposition, their reasoning was that we have the impeachment process (which requires no legal justification) to remove a president if we so choose.
     
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    But the issue did come up in the Nixon case and was addressed.
     
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    Plus the obvious reality of how this lapdog MSM { beholdin to everything
    Pro Obama and Anti Trump } never mentions the fact that a sitting
    President cannot be Indicted.The only way to remove a sitting President while
    serving his term is thru Impeachment.
    The Pig scums in the MSM refuse to point that out.
    Now ... simply ask yerself.Why is that.
    Because they want the Impression out in public that Trump can be
    taken down.When they know or should know how doggone difficult
    that is.So the MSM has to every hour of every day ruin Trump personally
    to get the Public's approval of President Trump as low as possible.
    Because you can't Impeach a sitting President with decent Approval
    numbers.It's takes public opinion to make work.
    President Trump has his disapproval numbers going down each week.
    They peaked back December at 58-59% Disapproval.
    They are at around 52 % as of the start of this week.
    meaning the Pig scum in the Corrupted MSM have a lot of Hating to
    feed for those at their trough.
     
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    Nixon was ready and willing to put up a fight,but when savvy
    and very informed James Baker { Chief of Staff } came in to
    Nixon's office one day and said ... You don't have the public on
    yer side.It's Over.
    That the auditions for The Fat Lady were being undertaken.
     
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    Trump doesn't care about the public in general...he has his base and the sycophants in Congress
     
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    Yea and Nixon lost that battle
     
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    Because we know how Idiotic this Trump Economy is ... right.
    NO ... We know now,just exactly who the Ameirca haters are.
    That is the monumental takeaway from all this Trump hatred.
    Just who the America haters are.
    Obama worked his hand at building distrust and displeasure
    with This Land is Your Land,this Land is My Land.
    With - Occupy Wall Street - and - BlackLivesMatter -.
    But those Obama Marxist days are behind us.Yes,remnants
    will remain.Like cow dung in Pastures,far and wide.
     
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    Again ... I guess that explains the Economy ,Trump's Economy ... eh.
    Yer a nut.
     
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    What does the economy have to do with this subject??
     
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    "]I'm pretty sure about one thing , old donnie us a hell of a lot smarter then you and your fellow haters ."

    Only a truly deaf and blind Trumpsters would say something so obviously ridiculous in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    Trump has never been three or four steps ahead of anything since he's been in the White House.

    As with his real estate dealings, he has built a solid record of managerial chaos, executive incompetence, broken promises, failed deals, decisions made with little consideration on the fly, and a general trail of destruction of American prestiege and power all around the world.
     
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    Ah, the warm waft of smug. It suits you well.
     
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    The economy was not Trump's doing. It was Obama's.

    Trump did nothing to change fiscal policy in the US until almost a year into his presidency.

    So, all the economic growth that happened in his first year accrue to his predecessor's policies.

    Trump signed Wall Street's tax cut bill, and then committed to a budget that will produce record deficits even though the economy is strong.

    The stock market stopped rising right after the tax bill was signed, and when Trump started is trade wars, and committed to borrow and spend, it started gyrating wildly.
     
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    It's called accuracy
     
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    Thanks. I tend to get the larger scope of history right most of the time.
     

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