“We reject the ideology of globalism and accept the doctrine of patriotism”

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/ful...ess-at-the-2018-un-general-assembly-1.6509501

It was obvious yesterday's speech at the UN was aimed at Fox viewers, which consequently produced the laughter, he forgot he wasn't in a gym in Kansas, but seeing it was for their consumption, can a conservative tell us exactly what is "patriotism" as a foreign policy?

 

Doing what's better for our nation first, before we address other nations problems.

 

I would have answered this question... but you nailed it. Only a Leftists wouldn't know this answer, which is sad for the nation that they are a part of it.

 

Haven't we always done that? Last I knew our foreign policy was based upon furthering American interests as its' goal

 

They laughed at Trump.... then he called them out and they applauded Trump... then he told them he was shutting down the countries that are bad business... and they sat in horrified silence.

Thank God we have Trump looking out for the American people. Leftists would just be fine with our poor languishing at the expense of foreigners.

 

Charity begins at home.

 

Not an answer, as I just noted above, American foreign policy has always been about pursuing American interests

 

Only someone smoking crack would believe that statement. Previous deals with China, Mexico, Iran, Canada, Europe, etc... all favored their people over ours thanks to pathetic Globalists.

 

Different topic, but no, they just laughed at Trump, he forgot he wasn't at a gym rally in Kansas, they weren't buying his usual shtick

Now do you want to tell us what Patriotism is as a foreign policy?

 

Nope, not since Bill Clinton and his foreign policy of liberal internationalism.

Its a utilitarian philosophy where we, and our partner countries, make decisions on what's best for all of us as a group, not as individual nations.

Its why Bush had to get "permission" to go to war in Iraq and pretty much how we've been doing everything until Trump.

 

Other than talk radio rhetoric, and regurgitating what Trump has told you, you still haven't told us what is a "patriotism" foreign policy. Take your time

 

No - the previous administration did not do that.

 

"and our partner countries, make decisions on what's best for all of us as a group" disqualifys it as being a unilateralism policy, no utilitarian foreign policy would have "partners" and "good for the group" involved

 

Really, how so, and be specific

 

How so, and be specific

 

Globalism isn't interested in the well-being of the U.S.

Globalism only cares about what it can take from the U.S.

F--- globalism.

 

I never brought up unilateralism.

I said utilitarianism.

The doctrine that actions are right if they are useful or for the benefit of a majority.

The majority in this case is the greater community of our partner nations not the citizens of the United States of America.

They take second place to the international community, or did until Trump came along.

 

Patriotism is looking out for your own interests. If those interests coincide with those of other countries, wonderful. But to subvert U.S. interests just to go along with the crowd is idiotic.

 

There is no "greater community of our partner nations," Trump, I assume pursuing his "patriotism" policy has alienated what used to be our traditional allies, the EU has already formulated new relations with China, and the CPTPP consisting of Far East American partners has moved along without US participation.

And utilitarianism is multilateralism, which I believe is the exact opposite of Trump's "patriotism" policy

 

I keep hearing the same generalized answer, but when has the US not pursued our own interests? And if you are going to add "Obama," cite particular examples

 

That is pure radio rhetoric, and doesn't explain what is the "patriotism" foreign policy

 

Yes really. Obama was an internationalist, not a patriotic nationalist. He spent his entire term appeasing America's enemies and putting the agenda of his fellow internationalists before the interests of the United States.

 

Trump is winning, it shows with all these angry threads and posts from the left.

OT: Patriotism, if it pisses off the left then it's patriotism.

 

We should have no permanent allies, we gather them on a per need basis.

George Washington warned us of entangling alliances.

If we need them or they need us then we will team up for that issue then go our own ways again.

And yes, utilitarianism is opposite of Trumps new patriotic policy.

That was kinda my point, he's changing our foreign policy.

 

And you still haven't provided the specific examples that would support your claim let along explain what is a "patriotism" foreign policy