“Whites Steal African Resources!”

Lately I hear populist republicans go on about how white people are the victims of systematic racism, which of course it another attempt to paint the other side as racist.

 

In retrospect, have they, have they REALLY advanced in the grand global advancements ?

 

That would be history and common knowledge of it..

 

Has the disambiguated voice of your experience ever publicly disagreed with you? Or could it just be a voice in your head that only you can hear?

Post modern racism is based on equity. It whole heartedly accepts a racial supremist view that any and all unequal racial outcomes must be the result of a racial power differential that requires regulation.

 

Talk about illiterate. I've taken a d give and scored more IQ tests than you even know exist. There is almost literally no obvious differences between the Iowa standardized intelligence test given to grade schoolers and the act and sat except that the former has more questions and the over all degree of difficulty is lower. They are all multiple choice test save the aforemention Wexler which is multipart and test multiple skills and talents. Even the US army IQ test I took about 50 years ago was 4 part multiple choice.

 

But accurate, been to Frisco lately?

 

I think the underlying truth here is that many people use concerns about racism as a wedge to promote
particular economic and social polices. Liberals, I submit, are more likely to use race in this manner.

You appear to be assuming racism has little or no impact. The message to those affected is that they can overcome racism. They benefit from hearing about and seeing concrete examples of people like them who succeed.

 

Haven't been there lately, but I used to live part of the year in Napa.

 

You claiming that attacks based on the premise of systemic racism aren't happening then? Or that the people being attacked should just take the hits and not complain?

 

Ah never mind, we may not have an argument after all. Our problem is language. You previously referred to the Peabody Picture Vocab test as an IQ test, and here you are mentioning a US Army IQ test. That's the ASVAB, and it isn't an IQ test. Neither is the Iowa Standard Test. The only test you mentioned that's actually an IQ test is the Wexler. So given that you seem to call every sort of assessment and achievement test as an IQ test, it's no wonder you think they measure knowledge.

So discussion over.

 

I am white, but don't see any evidence of systematic racism against me. Can you tell me about these systematic attacks?

 

I've not had any such personal experience either- but we see a lot of news that relates to this. Not that news is trustworthy in content, but there is usually an event to produce it. For example, one mother addressed a school board because her 6 year old daughter came home and asked her if she was born evil because she was born white. That impression came from what was presented in her school- and the effect was to make this little girl question her own human value because of her race. I can't imagine a parent not being outraged over that, nor can I imagine any school system even allowing anything or anyone to be part of their system and presenting that.... but it happens, and too often- and those doing it are not ashamed of it. The question of your personally experiencing it is relevant to the moment, but the concept is aimed at everything and everyone everywhere- and it is, without question, a racist pursuit.

Imagine proclaiming that being born black made you inferior. We've been attempting to destroy such perceptions for a very long time- now people want to flip the coin and continue on the same path? They fear racism fading as a tool for profit, and a weapon for power. Racism is a mindset. It will exist so long as it can be promoted and sold to weak people- and provide advantage to unscrupulous people. Sooner or later, the damage of this affects everyone in one way or another.

 

The right is concerned with unequal treatment.
The left is concerned with unequal outcome.

To the right, systemic racism is a law that applies conditionally to race
To the left, systemic racism is any differential outcome between races.

The right's concern is that the left's solution to the left's definition MUST ESSENTIALLY violate the right's definition.

That is to say, if the system that controls downhill skiing produces a distribution of winners that is different from some ambiguous ideal distribution, then downhill skiing must be systemically racist. To eliminate the systemic racism, the left would suggest things like allowing specific underrepresented groups a head start, access to free ski lessons, quotas, etc. and these suggestions specifically violate the premise of equal treatment.

 

News=Agenda.

"White man the victim" agenda. Its almost as if they want to appear weak. I don't get the approach, but its what they have been taught to express.

 

Let me clarify this a bit:

The right is concerned with unequal input.
The left is concerned with unequal output.

The disagreement is over the fact that small changes in input can produce large (and often unexpected) changes in output. I'll switch from race to sex for a second to illustrate. There was a big flap about the gender pay gap, and a claim that the law was systemically sexist. The same premises apply. If woman on average earn less than men on average, then the law (according to the left) must be sexist.

The problem is that if you average men, and you average woman on the inputs that influence wage earning you're not going to see much of a difference between those two groups. But the small differences can produce large differential outcomes. A man that is 5% more likely to skip his kid's soccer game, 5% more likely to stay late after work, and 5% more likely to march into his bosses office demanding a raise because his job is 5% more life threatening may compound those advantages and earn much more than 5% greater income.

 

Affirmative action, which puts white males dead last and has done and has really saved females more than males regardless of race. Then there's CRT that basically supports Farrakhan's belief that the white man is the devil but also promotes the equally insane notion African Americans inspire if mountains of evidence to the contrary are just helpless little waifs whose only service to society is to serve as helpless victims.

 

Then you missed the streets of Frisco covered in fecal matter because the dumbass mayor in essence decided that crapping on the sidewalk is a prorected human right.

 

I see. So, this proves that "the left" is more racist because they want to fix the "outcome"?

 

How did you make the leap to "more"?

Not from anything I said, for sure.

 

I live in the Mexican culture here on the Border.. I see some prejudice behavior towards me, not much anymore, as I am a fluent Spanish speaker and indistinguishable from the very white Mexicans.. I take that back, they do discriminate against me.. but because they think I am a rich Mexican (means "connected") I have many privileges. The negative stuff.. I hardly notice it any more and when I do notice it is always of someone dumb.

 

How do they discriminate against you? There are tons of latinos down here too, but I never felt discriminated against. Or maybe I don't notice it either, which means its irrelevant.

 

100%

And no, it's those who believe colour determines our fate who are prejudiced. You can only believe that when you believe that some colours are 'better' than others. It matters not whether you claim the moral high ground in that equation, to believe it in the first place reveals your foundation premise.

PS: I'm a great admirer of Dr Sowell's, and have often wished he'd been moved to enter public office. He'd have been a less happy man, and probably wouldn't have lived as long as he has, but America would have been far better off. To my mind, he is the architypal 21stC American, and one who manifests all the best of your nation in a dignified and reasonable package.

 

Could you give an example of institutionalised 'excluding of race' perpetrated by 'RW'?

 

Only you know why you attached a pic of people who are not Progressive Lefties, to support an argument that Progressive Lefties aren't racist. Talk about 'devoid of reality'.

 

My lifetime of living it, plus thirty years working with the human condition, trumps your thirty years of teaching.