10 key quotes from Justice Alito's opinion overturning Roe v. Wade

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No you haven't. RvW was never law it was merely an unconstitutional opinion by a few justices. There is nothing activist by properly interpreting the Constitution which the justices here did as opposed to those who created RvW did not.
     
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    Then I await your comments on Alito's points of law.
     
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    California is looking at 14 days after birth, I hear.
     
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    Well the folks who claim it’s baby murder but also a states rights issue shouldn’t care right?
     
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    Oh BS, I have a good friend she is very leberal and a lawyer that works in constitutional law. I had a long talk with her yesterday and she said point blank this is the most comprehensive opinion she's seen since she's been alive and the foundation she could find no argument. The bottom line, you can't have 1 offs as settled law and if you do you'll have a thousand cases against it as you've had towards Roe. The constitution doesn't make abortion a right, it was never ever written that way. If the federal government wants to make it a law, make it a law. They obviously don't, the left has had plenty of opportunities where they had all 3 branches and did nothing. The states on the other hand have tackled abortion over and over, this is how our democracy works. I think most would support the Mississippi law, restrictions after 15 weeks but I get the left needs a fear campaign to compete in November so have at it.
     
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    if the government can force you to have babies now, the flip side is they can also force you to abort or be fixed
     
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    Non-sequitor.
     
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    reality, like it or not
     
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    Non-sequitor.
     
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    Ultra conservative activist justices with an agenda to strip rights from women. Please read the 4th Amendment and explain why it doesn't apply to women of childbearing age.

    Section 1 of the 14th:

    "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    Pregnancy is a medical condition that carries with it many risks to the health and/or life of the woman. Are you required to report your medical conditions to the government? Why should women be required to do so? When did pregnancy become the government's business?

    This is the patriarchy continuing to pull out all the stops in their eons-long work at controlling women. Nothing more.
     
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    Like the thousands of Trumpsters who stormed the Capitol on 1/6/2021?
     
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    Get back to me when you can write a coherent
    My opinion is BS?

    Get back to me when you can get pregnant. And try to at least spell liberal correctly.
     
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    Is the 4th Amendment constitutional? Because those are the rights being stripped from women, as well as protection from the states violating those rights in accordance with Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

    Go ahead, look those up ... I'll wait for ya. Then come back and read the actual text of Roe v Wade:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/410/113
     
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    We can test your level of concern very easily - each year about 40,000 vulnerable children die of respiratory distress from air-born pollutants. Are you putting your
    car in the garage rather than endanger those children, or is that inconvenient for your lifestyle?
     
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    That's why it's not considered to be abortion to store hundreds of fertilized eggs in a freezer and then throw them away. However, a fertilized egg, in the right environment with the right nutrician does have the potential to become life and therefore is a different story.
     
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    There are many instances of S.C. making dubious judgements. If "Roe" was so Constitutionally uncertain, what can we say about that decision and those Justices? What about the clearly unconstitutional "random stops" the court approved to satisfy MADD?
    Yes, the S.C. can be partial and political. Yes, Congress should have settled things with clear laws. Also, yes, people could be a lot more conscious of their acts and fewer abortions would be necessary. It still isn't clear what we have to fear from the minority concerned, fertile women, continuing to exercise the right to personal health. How does it affect the majority for this group to decide what only this group can do?
     
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    They also store sperm, but each cannot live on its own.
     
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    Cite your source.
     
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    The 4th does not grant a right for a mother to kill her unborn baby. RvW was not a LAW. RvW is now moot.
     
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    What do people fear from this small minority of fertile women making their intimate, personal decision?
     
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    I'll go basic for you:

    A fetus is not ... repeat, NOT ... a baby, not until it can live and breathe on it's own. A fetus has no rights.

    Do you think the government has the right to view your medical records? They don't. The 4th Amendment protects your privacy. Read it. Pregnancy is a medical condition, therefore it should not be the business of the State, or any government agency.

    If it's inside my body, it's no one else's effing business. Period. This SCOTUS

    I am not pro-abortion, I'm pro-choice. If you don't understand the difference, I'd be happy to explain.

    No offense intended, but your argument seems entirely emotional to me. You're convinced that most aborted fetuses are murdered babies, even though about 90% of abortions take place within the first 10 to 12 weeks when the fetus is still a teensy blob of growing flesh, just beginning to form human-like features. I'm guessing it's religious beliefs? Forgive me for saying, but I prefer logic and knowledge.
     

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