14-year-old girl who opened fire at deputies referred to Grand Theft Auto: Sheriff

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  1. Par10

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    Sure, and we must embrace everyone's culture no matter how screwed up it is or how bad that culture has proved to screw up every place it exists. Diversity is all that matters.
     
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    "Lucky". The 12 year old has spent most of his life in foster care and had suicidal isolation and was hearing voices as early as 7. I am guessing he was severely beaten and / or abused at a very early age.

    When information comes out on the girl, I suspect we will find similar issues. She was 11 when she stole a neighbor's dog and was charged with grand theft.
     
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    It depends on the state. Some require more secure storage in the home than others.
    Where I live the thief is the guilty party whether all the windows and doors are locked or not. The stuff in your house is considered to be personal property of the owner—not community property anyone can take at will. I would guess maybe only half the homes in places like where I live are locked when nobody is home. Most driveways have numerous vehicles from ATV’s to pickups to tractors sitting there with the keys in the ignition 24 hours a day any time they are not in use by the owner. The US is a vast place that is very different depending on geographical location. You hear most about the nutty places because that’s where most people live.
    We keep firearms handy here not because of two legged night varmints but because of four legged night varmints. You are correct though, you don’t want to be fooling around with a safe or trigger lock or unloaded gun when there’s a coyote in the sheep pen at 2:00 a.m. Same would go for self defense, but when everyone has a firearm ready to go in a community it seems to cut down drastically on people willing to invade homes uninvited.
    It doesn’t have to be. I can’t remember a time I didn’t know where a firearm was as a kid. By the time I was a pre-teen/early-teen it was my responsibility to get the unsecured firearm and use it to defend our food sources if an adult wasn’t present. I suppose there are schizophrenics and sociopaths that can’t be taught to respect firearms as kids, but that should be obvious to the parents. Outside of that, I believe kids that are truly “parented” can be easily taught to be safe and non violent with firearms. I firmly believe kids that have seen what firearms do to living things are more easily taught respect for firearms. A kid who takes their first deer with a rifle at age 10 and helps dress it and then eats it all winter is going to behave differently in respect to firearms in the home than these punks that spend all day playing GTA.
    I don’t understand it either. It seems so simple. But some people just always sympathize with the offender instead of the innocent party. I’m convinced it’s because they themselves identify more with the actual criminal because they have similar tendencies to violence and lack of self control—even if they don’t act them out in the same ways.
     
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    thank you for your answers 557 - and belive it or not - as a UK left winger I agree with all that you said
     
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    See #316.
     
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    Just can't bring yourself to blame somebody, can ya?
     
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    Bolt cutters are common, angle grinders are cheap. Screenshot 2021-06-05 4.28.19 PM.png
     
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    As you know, correlation does not prove causation.
    As we all know, you cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship between legal gun ownership rates and gun-related violence rates.
    And thus, and as always, you can only support your position with a post hoc fallacy.
     
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    Thank you for demonstrating you have no meaningful argument to support your position.
     
  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Just what I thought @Aleksander Ulyanov
     
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    Of course I can.

    That's why it's illegal to carry guns on military bases.
     
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    No. You cannot. And you know it.
     
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    is he joking?
     
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    No, I'm not.

    No pro 2A on this forum is able to explain to me why it's prohibited to carry a gun on military bases.

    When someone explains this to me, we might have a logical debate about the proliferation of guns in the US.
     
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    agree, but doesn't change the fact that they are lucky no cops died and that the cops tried so hard to deescalate this

    as far as not having loving parents, agree, they did not have luck in that part of life it seems, but all part of God's plan... right
     
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  16. Buri

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    You mean those military bases with information not available to the public’s eye, where national security is kept close?
    I thought he was serious, shoulda seen that coming.
     
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    "She was 11 when she stole a neighbor's dog and was charged with grand theft."

    wonder if that is what she mentioned when she said "grand theft" and the cop thought she meant "grand theft auto"
     
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    No.
    Sad, isn't ii?
     
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    Nothing here changes the fact that, as we all know, you cannot demonstrate the necessary relationship between legal gun ownership rates and gun-related violence rates.
    And thus, and as always, you can only support your position with a post hoc fallacy.
     
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    And all burglars have one?

    Get real.
     
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    I have 3 on my porch. Just keep telling yourself your tiny and lightweight safe is secure.
     
  22. Sleep Monster

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    It's as secure as I can make it, and the real point here is that the kids about which this thread was created would not have been able to use my gun. Please lose the arrogance.
     
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    I'm the "arrogant" one here? Because I state the obvious? Can you fit two long guns in your tiny safe?
     
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    I don't have long guns. If I did, I'd buy a big Field & Stream standing safe. My only gun is a Beretta 96A-1 (I just love Italian designers).

    When you continually harangue someone on an irrelevant notion about how safe their gun is, it comes off as arrogant, even pompous.
     

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