17-year-old girl takes home top prize

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  1. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    No.

    I pay road dues where I live for our road to be maintained, not the local government but my community.

    I don't have garbage pick up, I pay to have it removed by a private company.

    BTW- local issues are local issues. What we are talking about her is the federal government.

    Learn to keep up and you might have a better chance at getting by.
     
  2. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Obama, no individual achievement is their own, they owe somebody else, that is exactly what he said, and since that is his position, he will also take responsibility for their failure.

    I didn't misquote, or misread what you said, there are liberals wanting to gut our defense, and that is a fact.
     
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    Don't forget the altruistic libs passing out free toilet paper that you told us about.

    Where would conservatives be without libs wiping our ass for us?
     
  4. violadude

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    He did not say "no individual achievement is their own" That's not exactly what he said and you're a liar for saying so.
     
  5. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Obama, no individual achievement is their own, they owe somebody else, that is exactly what he said, and since that is his position, he will also take responsibility for their failure.

    I didn't misquote, or misread what you said, there are liberals wanting to gut our defense, and that is a fact.
     
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    What Obama did is he declared that the Government's contribution to this girl's success was more important and larger then her own. Which even liberals should understand to be a total bull(*)(*)(*)(*). But for political reasons, *******s cannot admit it. Simple, really.
     
  7. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "You didn't build that business", that is what he said, so it is you who are lying Vio. Perhaps when you move out of your parents house and start your own business to realize how unbelievably hard it is, you will understand my outrage of this failure and chief, who has never owned so much as a lemonade stand. He must now own his stupidity
     
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    What Obama is telling this girl and all their others like her is go ahead and make your money but don't expect to keep it.
     
  9. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here ya go vio-dude, the exact words:

    If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

    Now own it!
     
  10. violadude

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    It's taken out of context. If you listen to the WHOLE (*)(*)(*)(*)ING SPEECH it's obvious the message is not that government owns all achievement, but society helps people out. Why don't you be (*)(*)(*)(*)ing honest with yourself.

    What you're doing is like if I said "JESUS SAID POKE YOUR EYE OUT, NOW OWN IT!
     
  11. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    We have all watched the entire speech. He said, you didn't build that, you didn't make that happen.

    Its exactly how the left thinks, just like Elizabeth Warren and the lefts merry band of communists social justice lovers.
     
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    If you heard the speech, and you still think the entire point of it was that government owns all accomplishments, then you are just not intelligent. That's the only explanation.
     
  13. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    If you believe Obama is not a marxist wanna be communist organizer, than you are just not intelligent.
     
  14. violadude

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    And...you obviously don't know what marxism or communism is. Who is less intelligent again? You do realize that communism calls for an abolition of the state. So which one is it? Is Obama a big government statist? or Is he a stateless communist?
     
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    This thread is full of fail...except for the actual story which is impressive. Kudos to this girl for helping others in the field of research trying to help rid the world of cancer...
     
  16. Consmike

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    I do know what it is. The funny part about the left, they are the ones who have never actually read Marx. hence why they believe in communism.
     
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    Here is the remedial version for those that are slow:

    Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

    Notice where the periods in the sentence are, that is the context of what he said, so stop your spin lies.
     
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    I have read the communist manifesto. If you read it, you would know that Obama is not a communist/Marxist.
     
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    Well, it is about spin actually. Obama is what we used to call a spin doctor. He delivers subtle and sometimes not so subtle themed messages in his orations.

    This particular speech, the message within the message was that you can't do things without the government, which implies a few different things. One, growing that government isn't a bad thing by extension of thought (the biggest political debate on the planet atm, austerity measures etc) and two, you can only be successful if the government is involved.

    Spin doctor, themed messages is what is being recognized by most people. Hard line leftists simply refuse to see it, or, are of the mindset that big government is the answer to all ills and successes of a society.
     
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    You did not read it anymore than Obama has never read the entire US constitution.
     
  21. violadude

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    And roads don't help people succeed in a business? You forgot the part after words where he says "It's about people's individual initiative, but also because we do things together." If you don't think that businesses form because of a combination of these two things, and not just one or the other, then I guess we just don't agree but I don't see how you can disagree with that.
     
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    That's just interpretation, which is opinion, not fact. The fact is, he said "The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together." Usually when people say, "The point is" it means, this is the point I'm trying to make.
     
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    Man you guys are pathetic. Roads and bridges. That's what Obama was talking about. Roads and bridges. Small business owners didn't build that(sic).

    Society and government plays a HUGE role in everything we do. Would this young woman have made such an amazing project without an amazing teacher? Or if she had to worry about criminals and terrorists at her door? Or if she didn't have roads and bridges connecting to her home?

    That's the point Obama was making.

    But of course you know this. You're not dumb. Just looking to spit out a pathetic out of context sound bite to make Obama look bad. Anyone with a brain can see the only ones that look bad are the people who either purposely take others out of context or the people who believe stuff they hear completely out of context.
     
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    I don't know you, nor do I want to.
     
  25. violadude

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    Good, then stop pretending to know what I've done.
     

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