2 shot, 1 dead in Chaz

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  1. WillReadmore

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    If the decision is to fire all the people in the police force, including how policing is organized, there is no possibility of complaining about that terminology.

    And, that certainly IS what some people want.

    Maybe you've never been involved in protesting anything before. Let me assure you that those protesting have not signed a bill they want to pass through the legislature - LOL. They have various views that have not been condensed into some unifying poilcy.
     
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    The point is that there is no justification for watching Fox on this subject.

    They proved their intent to GROSSLY misrepresent events surrounding CHOP.
     
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    What, they're not 'autonomous' anymore? They need the help of the evil capitalists?
     
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    That's because lunatic leftists never do anything as rational and productive as drafting logical bills and submitting them to be passed through legislature. All they ever do is counter-productive lunacy like stand in the road blocking traffic while screeching nonsense about cutting police department budgets in half, or even in whole.

    I'm a rational human being, so I involve myself in protesting in rational and constructive ways. I protest with my wallet, and my ballot, like a mature adult. I don't stand out in the street screaming like a bratty child.
     
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    Which events did they misrepresent? Stop evading, and be specific.
     
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    LOL - you are sinking fast!

    Would you suggest that Gandhi was a "bratty child"? Would you suggest MLK Jr was a "bratty child"?

    BTW, I'm FINE with you proposing a solution wot the problem of police forces not being trusted by the people they police - like you are so proud of doing.

    That IS pretty much the central issue.

    It better be good, though, as people have tried that route. It's not as if protesting is the first tool used.


    Have you read up on the Seattle Block Party yet?

    Have you found your comment? I've tried, and so far I haven't found any candidate for ANYTHING like you propose was said.
     
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    I'm assuming you're referring to Chaz needing police help.
     
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    MLK Jr. and Ghandi were staunch proponents of non-violent protest, and passive resistance, and they'd both be utterly disgusted by the violence, death and destruction that's been happening in CHAZ.
    From what I've read, shootings, murders, arson, assault and destruction of property aren't regular features of the Seattle Block Party, so I'll conclude that since all of that has occured in CHAZ recently, that this is a unique event, and not the usual "summer of love" block party.

    Therefore, Fox's depiction was more accurate than the mayor's
     
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    And yet even being a lie, it's still a more accurate depiction of what's been happening in CHAZ than a comparison to block parties.
     
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    The protesteros at CHOP in Seattle are disgusted by the violence and destruction, too. You even posted a vid of the IMMEDIATE response to some rioter starting a fire.

    Fox LIED repeatedly - producing lurid pictures and descriptions that absolutely did NOT happen.

    And, you have failed to find ANY cite from any actual local officials.

    You need to mvoe beyond Fox. I really think that may be your problem.
     
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    YOU are the one suggesting there was some block party connection.

    And, that's why I'm holding you to account.

    YOU claimed there was such a statement beign made.

    And, I'M suggestiong you are absolutely and unequivocally WRONG about that.
     
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    Everybody needs poilce help.

    That's not debatable.
     
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    Just because you're exercised over an issue doesn't mean their viewers care. Last night, only Fox had Trump's rambling blather on live.

    The fact is that none of it is real news. Which pols sold us out so we have by far the highest prescription drug prices in the world would be news. How about an hour show on why we have 120K dead from the virus and British Columbia (5m people) has 168? Our equivalent dead at their rate would be about 14,000.

    A lot of our 120,000 dead had a last stop in the ICU at $6-$10K per day.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15942342/

    This where British Columbia is now...

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    Why do we have 120,000 dead instead of 14,000? What if one of those extra 100,000 people was your spouse, brother or sister, mother or father, son or daughter, etc? Wouldn't you want your fellow citizens to hold those responsible to account? Instead, people are worked up about one guy.

    How stupid is that?
     
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    They are a self proclaimed autonomous zone, so therefore you are incorrect.

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    "the federation included sixteen autonomous republics"
     
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    We have way too many people dying of COVID-19. Who is responsible for that?

    Here's what they've done in Australia (25m people)...

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    It looks like they beat back COVID-19 in about one month. 102 dead, total.

    Do you care?
     
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    Has it crossed your mind what they do about CHAZ is their business, not yours?
     
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    Is this code for condemning the vast majority who peacefully protest? You seem to like the racist society we have, but a lot of young people of all races are sick of living this way.

    They're not just focused on blacks. They want decent treatment for everyone. We have 2m people behind bars and many more convicted of economic crimes--like selling dope to white people. End the idiotic "war on drugs." Trump needs to stop vilifying Latinos.

    Young people want to be able to afford a decent place to live and access to work training.
     
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    You're kidding yourself if you believe there isn't an army educated Millennials and Gen-Z ready with solutions to the problems people are pissed off about. The street protests are the way average folks can get involved.
    They're going to vote your boy out in November. If he keeps screwing up the economy and killing people, he could easily cost you the Senate, too.
     
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    It's not my business, but yes.
     
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    I agree with your choice of placement I have done that also at times.
     
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    Do you get a kick out of posting false accusations?? I just googled searched and guess what in the past few hours CNN, WASH Post, Time Mag, Guardian, News Week, Faily Mail, The Independent, NYPost, Reuters, The Hill, Chicago Tribune, US News and World Teport, ABC, USA Today, and on and on.

    It is sad how often I have to proove those of you who seem to enjoy making false accusations about the normal good American and world news media. Why don't those of you who like to do this kind of false accusations about the media instead post intelligent logical factual and honest comments? I am getting tired of proving you guys wrong time after time.
     
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    You posted 11 min ago. I posed when? And when I posted, what I said was 100% accurate. So please. Thx.
     
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    Who’s responsible? China first. WHO for lying to the world. Then everyone. No single person is responsible. And comparing AU to us is a joke. You understand that right? Travel to your country isn’t the same. Your pop density isn’t the same. The land mass isn’t the same.

    it’s a nonsensical idiotic comparison used by simple minds.
     
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    The mayor said this:
    “We've got four blocks in Seattle that you just saw pictures of that is more like a block party atmosphere. It's not an armed takeover. It's not a military junta. We will - we will make sure that we can restore this.”

    So you were saying? Please educate yourself before attempting to have discussions. Thx.
     
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