2012 London Olympics

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  1. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They must be American defectors.
     
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    Ireland just got gold in womens boxing. :winner:

    :shamrock:
     
  3. arjay

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    USA!...USA!...USA!...Congrats to the US Women's Soccer Team for their 2-1 victory over Japan, earning the Gold medal! But also congrats to Japan for their Silver medal & gutsy performance in the Final! Quite nerve wracking as well as entertaining.
     
  4. Viv

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    Just silly is your middle name...you're giving your country a total red face the whole way through the thread with the total inability to be a good sport. I'd be embarrassed for you, but it would be wasted on you.

    Usain Bolt...better than the best, better than the rest, better than the West, yes the wild wild West whose sprinters are a mess. What a legend. I love it when Jamaica win, they are such cool people.
     
  5. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    Well done Eire. I saw a bit of her previous match with the UK girl.:winner:

    Edit] There are two women on now kicking ten bells out of each other in some kind of jujitsu. Why women want to get involved in that I don't know, but Jade Jones the GB girl seems to have won a gold medal.
     
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    I love when a discuss a point and you chime in with complete gibberish. If you'd like to refute my statement, by all means.

    And just like that, the Americans start crushing the Chinese state athletes, leading now with 39 gold and 90 total medals, with some of our best events yet to come.
     
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    Any Olympic athlete from any nation is worthy of admiration just from the dedication and commitment to sports most folks don't care about except every 4 years.
    This is their moment....

    It is only natural to root for your home nation...
    It's perfectly normal to see the British cheer on their tennis ace Murray defeating Federer, or the Chinese rooting for their athletes, or Jamaicans proud of the fastest
    man on Earth, a fellow Jamaican. Good for them.

    So why is it when we "Yanks" do it, we're called "obnoxious"..."boorish"...fat tubs of goo who prefer to sit on the couch and watch someone else put forth the effort
    and live through them?

    Why are we demonized?

    makes no sense to me...

    Root, root root....for your home team!
     
  8. Up On the Governor

    Up On the Governor Well-Known Member

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    I think we're demonized for our attitude. Not saying kronikcope or whoever is under the scope is guilty of it, but I think our competitiveness can be perceived as arrogance. We think we're invincible on every field, but we're not.
     
  9. Viv

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    You saddo...China are going to tank you and I'm buying a Chinese flag to send to your house American Express...:email:
     
  10. Herkdriver

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    Certainly not in Ping Pong.
     
  11. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    You're not demonized, just Kronic and it's nothing new to find him in over-competitive mode.
     
  12. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    Because everybody else means it when they wish the other athletes well.
     
  13. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not because you do it. It's the way that you do it.
     
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    You're living in fantasy land, sweetie. Considering the American lead and the remaining events, it's all but a foregone conclusion at this point.
     
  15. Herkdriver

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    Skip the flag, but I'll take an order of garlic chicken with crab rangoon on the side.

    I love chinese food.

    Carry on.
     
  16. Viv

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    Well that's how it is today. When I got back to the hotel after the footie the other day, China was a good couple of golds ahead of US.

    Oh look, there's an Irish boxer walloping a Russian. My hopes were up then, the Irish are wearing red and I thought it was another gold for my Chinese compadres.
     
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    Bragging rights reserved for winners only, europeans please do not demonize us, we are entitled to celebrations.
     
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    How times change. Oh well, you'll always have those good 'days' where the Chinese were slightly ahead.
     
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    USA!...USA!...USA!...Congrats to the US Women's Soccer Team for their 2-1 victory over Japan, earning the Gold medal! But also congrats to Japan for their Silver medal & gutsy performance in the Final! Quite nerve wracking as well as entertaining.
     
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    [video=youtube;SV9kNdezp3k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV9kNdezp3k[/video]
     
  21. cenydd

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    You are correct, in that it doesn't allow for a pure 'per capita' argument of that sort, because a bigger country can't simply flood the place with their competitors. However, a bigger country does still have a bigger pool of possible athelites from which to choose, and therefore on average should have an increased of finding a 'world class' competitor for each discipline than a smaller country, so there is still some 'per capita' element inherent to the overall results.

    It doesn't matter, though - as nice as it is for people to have someone from their own country to cheer for (and there's nothing wrong with that), ultimately it's really about everyone giving their all and the best person winning.
     
  22. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    There is no games winner. IOC doesn't recognise it and it totally contradicts the ethos. Don't mention that to the US folks though.:giggle:
     
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    They do publish the medal table themselves, though, even though they say it doesn't mean anything, which seems a little silly! I'm not sure they work it out the right way, either - I believe it is ordered by the number of golds, with other medals only taken into account if the number of golds are equal. Personally I would have gone with something more like 3 points for a gold, 2 for a silver, one for a bronze, and a table ordered by points. On that basis the top of current table would look like this:

    1. USA - 193
    2. China - 178
    3. UK - 115
    4. Russia - 101
    5. Germany - 73
    6. Japan - 57
    7. South Korea - 56
    8. France - 55
    9. Australia - 54
    10. Italy - 39
    11. Hungary - 35

    It doesn't change the top 4 at the moment, but it changes several positions after that (especially Japan, who would move from 12th to 6th on that system). I don't know - it just seems somehow fairer to me that the silver and bronze medal count for something more than a mere tie-breaker for an overall medals table. Obviously the value of the medal should be taken into account, rather than just a raw total number of medals all counting as the same, but it seems a bit unfair on someone who misses out on gold by a whisker to then not have their efforts counted as important to the published table, especially given the whole 'Olympic spirit' idea. If they're going to publish a table, they might as well do the job properly and fairly (and it doesn't seem to me to be rocket science to do that!)! Maybe it's just me, though!
     
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    Serena was not and is not the best person, even though she won.


    Shes a piece of trash that should be banned from tennis.
     
  25. Viv

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    ...but not winners and only for historic reasons as it is all about dignity, respect and meeting other nationalities in a peaceful setting etc etc etc (except for the US folks).

    No it wouldn't really look like that, if there are too many parameters ignored. For example, if China has participated in the games only 8 times and UK has been there 126 times... then UK would have more medals but just for good attendance. US is always there in force. Countries like Peru or Cameroon might be there, but they only are able to send about 6 people. You can't possibly even attempt to say countries who can't afford or are unable to field a full team are less valued or disadvantaged regarding achievement because it could be much more of an achievement for them to send an athlete among civil unrest/war/economic disadvantage..even weather and environmental disruption, than it is for US and Europe who don't contend with such disadvantages and even create them for other countries.

    The IOC charter specifically mentions discrimination as against the Olympic ethos. Therefore braggarts should be banned from the games entirely.:-D
     

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