2012 London Olympics

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  1. s002wjh

    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    i'm an american. i just don't like someone use excuse to justify other peoples accomplishment, i call those guys sore losers. yes yes save your BS elsewhere, if its state sponsored to dope/cheat in olympic post a credible source instead babbling about it. get into conspiracy theories too much ;)
     
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    I naive and dumb American...apparently.

     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    we had doping incident in tracking and other sport in our history. is that mean phelp winning in 2008/now has something to do with doping? the incident you quote is from individual, and its not state sponsored. she was clear from drug test unless later they prove otherwise. ever heared of proving until guilty?

    links and prove of the chinese swimmer is guilty of doping. if IOC and british test can find any substance, it doesn't take a genius to know what it means ;)

    here is a list of doping. there are alot countries did this including US, china, and many others
     
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    Americans do cheat, however it is not sponsored by the State. At the provincial level in China, cheating is encouraged. Did you bother to read the article on genetically modifying
    athletes?

    Doping tests wouldn't indicate anything.

    Given China's already dubious record on doping, known State sponsored cheating practice...and win at all costs ethics...suspicion should be raised.
     
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    Michael Phelps now known as the most Deadly Olympian to ever Live!!!!! 19 Olympic Medals is now the new record and Michael Phelps holds it. He also still has more Races to come and will most likely win some more. I believe that his record will never be broken. What do you think?
     
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    its all speculation and assumption. we had record on doping too, should other country suspect phelp is cheating too.
    yes i read the article, and its sound like BS. genectically modify humans. even US/europe are not that advance in genetic let along china. you read too much stuff that border line on sci-fi and conspiracy. you need to get into reality, genetic science has not advance to the level of human gene modification. if it does, we should have cure for cancer by now, and get rid all the genetic diseases by now.

    so by your logic all the record breaking athelete are doping since we can't trust IOC and other faction on their drug test.

    youre conclusion are base on your theory of assumption, bias, sterotype, and previous incident of other country/race. if we flip the other way china can also say the same for phelp and other american athelete who break the world record base on our doping history, assumption, etc etc.

    the fact speak lounder than these accusation, and they are many coach/swimmer around the world, and drug tester say she was clean. until they find trace of drug, she remain clean
     
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    It's not me making the allegations, I haven't watched but about 10 minutes of the Olympics aside from the opening ceremony. It's folks in the competitive swimming community, folks who know their stuff thinking the performance was enhanced.

    I don't attribute it all to "envy" either...it's folks in the know who question the performance as being enhanced in some way.

    Sports science has come a long way, and genetically modifying a human being is beyond science fiction, it is science fact.
     
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    So funny to see americans mad that after USSR China will humilliate them too in the olympic games.
    And neither of this nations has black people thus they have a huge disadvantage in athletism.
     
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    You are obviously entitled to your opinion, as am I. At least at this point in America.
     
  10. Herkdriver

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    Wait...USSR....?

    Didn't they collapse?

    I wouldn't call Michael Phelps, a "humiliating" defeat for the U.S.

    The man has won more medals than any Olympian in history, and by the way...he's caucasian....
     
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    The Irish and British were the same race then as of now. The conquest of Ireland was a necessity as Ireland was becoming an increasing liability in terms of the defense of the crown.

    I don't think the world (regarding the opening ceremony) would have been interested in the history involving our inter tribal wars, that is why it was left out.
     
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    Google it, there are a million articles about Chinas state sponsored doping program through the 80s and 90s.

    http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/article/-/14384617/chinese-doctor-reveals-state-sponsored-doping/
     
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    At the time, the british who were involved in the rescue of Ireland were celts.
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree...the English, I believe are descendants from Germanic tribes...
     
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    "Defense of the crown", that's rich.
     
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    Yes, and?

    Micheal Phelps is not being as good as expected in London.

    Swiming is not athletism.
     
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    No, you'll have to learn to accept the truth. The British involved in the rescue of Ireland was the house of Tudor. They were celts and so too was cromwell if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    They are also probably the least attractive participants in the games, swimmers.. They're like lizards
     
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    What this guy said.
    with their extra slim bodies and long legs
     
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    Compared to gymnasts, swimmers are like the retarded cousin.
     
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    I saw some of that and it wasn't easily by any means.

    As before, nobody really cares who wins except you and yer mad mouthy US mates.

    Oh my arse. I am a dwarf compared to my ex and my current husband and have always swum much faster than either of them and faster than any of my son's friends. It's about technique and such strange things as are you a natural floater. My friend is 5'10, I am 5'4, we swim 100 lengths together, but it's no exercise to me because I just relax and waft while she works. I stay afloat in water without moving or even holding my breath. All I have to do is move my hands to outpace her.

    Time will tell. They were saying drug testing is applied retrospectively now. The Olympic tests are being preserved for future testing and anyone from a country affluent enough to develop currently undetectable drugs may still be caught out in the future.
     
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    Well done to the UK people who won gold today. Cheered a crowd of us up during a very swift lunch break standing looking in at the telly. Rowing I think and cycling, plus a silver swimming. Anything I missed?
     
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    Riight, I am sure you could go win the gold right now. /sarcasm

    Rescue of Ireland? How insulting can you be? English historians have estimated that the Irish killed and/or sold into slavery were into the hundreds of thousands, and you call that "saving." Cromwell was nothing more than a murderer.
     
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    Not as rich as UK is split into The Irish and The British and the rest of us (who are neither) are oppressed by the daft exAnglosaxjutes. Who were oppressed by every passing race, btw.
     
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    Cromwell came a fair time after the Tudor he refers to.
     

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