2018: Voters feel good about the economy, not about President Trump

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by JakeStarkey, Feb 5, 2018.

  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That is the hump that the GOP will have to overcome. Its candidates will have to divorce themselves from the President and concentrate on the economy, while the Dems will have to glue their opponents to a President who cannot be trusted. The Dems should lose five Senate seats while maybe taking the House.

    No president has lied as often, as blatantly and as casually as Trump.

    It’s about the public’s optimistic view of the economy during the first year of Donald Trump’s presidency and the simultaneously pessimistic view of Trump himself. The contrast is striking.

    Polls show overwhelming satisfaction with the state of the economy, the most since the final three years of President Bill Clinton’s administration and the early months of the George W. Bush presidency. . . .

    At the same time, no president has had job-approval and personal-popularity ratings as low as Trump’s after one year in office. Polls show him to be much less admired personally at the same stage of his presidency than his two White House predecessors, Barack Obama and George W. Bush. His personal poll ratings also lag former Vice President Joe Biden’s and 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s.
     
  2. Jimmy79

    Jimmy79 Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2014
    Messages:
    9,366
    Likes Received:
    5,074
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This is the exact polar opposite of Obama. People hated his and the democrata policies but liked him. People hate trump and the gop but like his policies.
     
  3. Fenton Lum

    Fenton Lum Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2017
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    1,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The democratic party is going to take a position on trust?

    Ba ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
     
    TrackerSam likes this.
  4. Fenton Lum

    Fenton Lum Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2017
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    1,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    His policies? Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft, Goldman Sachs is all up in your white house, same as it ever was, same as it would have been with Hillary.
     
  5. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    5,187
    Likes Received:
    2,015
    Trophy Points:
    113

    " It's the economy stupid" Bill Clinton courtesy of Dick Morris. Congress passed the tax bill, Americans are now reaping the benefits. What are Dems going to campaign on, I voted against giving you your own money, I hate Trump or enjoy those crumbs? The President is punching like a heavyweight and the Dems like light weights. Ya got nothing.
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2018
    TrackerSam likes this.
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,666
    Likes Received:
    27,204
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    With an increase in the deficit. Yay (temporary?) tax cuts, boo hypocritically increasing the national debt immediately following eight years of howling about it under 0bama. From my non-partisan perspective, the new tax bill is fine for me, but comes with an empty promise of paying for itself through economic growth and a lack of spending cuts to make up the difference. You know what that means? Eventually, we will all be paying for this apparent tax cut down the road anyway. And I'm sure partisans will find a way to blame it on the Democrats (again) when the time comes.
     
  7. Baff

    Baff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2016
    Messages:
    9,641
    Likes Received:
    2,003
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Republican candidates have always divorced themselves from Trump. That's part of his mass appeal.
    The establishment doesn't like him and the country doesn't like them.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2018
    Jestsayin likes this.
  8. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Messages:
    16,980
    Likes Received:
    5,730
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump grates on people. At least those who aren't avid Trump supporters. Gallup had an interesting poll about the mood of the country and Trump's approval rating. They don't match. I've said all along it is the man and his obnoxious, egotistical, uncouth, non-presidential persona and behavior folks don't like, not necessarily his policies or stances on the issues. I'm with you on that. I can't stand him either. But here is that article.

    Trump Approval Lower Than U.S. Mood Might Predict

    http://news.gallup.com/poll/225467/...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2018
    JakeStarkey likes this.
  9. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2014
    Messages:
    20,296
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So they like his economy but not the man who is responsible? Sounds like bi-polar people to me. It is a bit incoherent.

    Well, if they have any sense, they will vote for the man who gave them an economy they are pleased with. But they could be some dems in there who only vote for the next person who might make history. Like a female, or a professed gay dude, or a trannny. Give em a black tranny who is female but dresses like a male and watch em vote their little heads off. Twice!
     
  10. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2014
    Messages:
    16,980
    Likes Received:
    5,730
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There is a disconnect, there usually is to a certain extent. Americans approve of the job Trump is doing on the economy by a 47-39% margin. But only 40% of Americans have a favorable view of Trump vs. 55% unfavorable. The economy is just one issue though, there are other issues that come into play when focusing on whether or not one views Trump positive or negative.

    What we see here is Trump having a plus 8 when dealing with the economy, but a minus 15 among those who view him positive. It all boils down to Trump's persona. Trump is very easy to dislike, he grates on people with his obnoxious ways. Of those who dislike Trump, Gallup polled them and found out 65% of those who dislike Trump do so because of his character or in other words, his uncouth, non-presidential behavior, persona. Of 16 issues, Trump is viewed positive in 7 of them or more Americans approve than disapprove of what Trump is doing, vs. 9 in which more Americans oppose what he is doing.

    In other words Trump's job approval and favorable's should be closer to 50% than 40%. Just ask yourself, what is causing that. I think it is Trump's persona. It is very possible to like the job he is doing, but really dislike the man. How that plays out in the voting booth remains to be seen. Will they vote Democratic only because they don't like Trump, the man, his character and persona or will they over look their dislike of the individual and vote Republican because of a good economy? That is if the economy is good come November.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2018
  11. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,640
    Likes Received:
    32,379
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well

    The 2018 midterms are going to be a referendum on Trump.

    If the GOP manages to hold on to the House, then Trump's snake oil will have gaslighted another election cycle.
     
    JakeStarkey likes this.
  12. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Absolutely correct. The great part is, neither the Republican or Democrat party have figured this out.
     
  13. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ding ding ding!

    So long as the banker class gets the first grab at the counterfeit cash they couldn't care less who runs the country.

    Oh, look at that, both parties almost unanimously support an inflationary monetary policy, vast deficit spending, QE, etc.
     

Share This Page