21 million Americans say Biden is ‘illegitimate’ and Trump should be restored by violence

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Poll from University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats:

    - 47 million American adults – nearly 1 in 5 – agree with the statement that “the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president.”

    - 21 million also agree that “use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency.”

    - Among those 21 million MAGA, 54% agree that “A secret group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is ruling the US government,” which is the key belief in the QAnon movement.


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    If these numbers don't scare you, then you are probably a MAGA intoxicated with all these conspiracy theories.

    Can we expect to build a country with so many people willing to use violence to reinstall an autocratic demagogue?
     
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    Crazy isn't it???
     
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  3. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    This is beyond crazy.

    I don't think there has ever been a greater threat to democracy than Trumpism and the cult of personality that comes with it.
     
  4. 61falcon

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    Advocating the violent overthrow of the legally elected government is a Federal crime known as treason.
     
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    One of the advantages of being 87. :)
     
  6. ECA

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    Supposedly a random sample of 1070 people represents 21 million people.

    I wasn't on that turnip truck, but apparently some other people were.
     
  8. MJ Davies

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    Someone told me that I'm fear mongering because I mentioned that Trump has us on the brink of civil war. It is much closer than they realize. I don't know what kind of hypnosis he's using on them but the fact that REAL AMERICANS are actually okay with this is beyond outrageous.
     
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  9. ToughTalk

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    The **** that's gonna drive us to civil war is false racist narratives pushed by the media that are villifying certain specific groups while praising others.

    And that hasn't stopped. So sounds to me like the media wants to see how far they can push it
     
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    So basically you think people will start a war over being butthurt? Ya...that's rational.
     
  11. FatBack

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    Good thing this garbage is not posted in "current events".....BS does not stay up long there.
     
  12. MJ Davies

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    I don't watch television (at all). I rent movies or go to Netflix but I never watch any "news channels" or programs so my opinion is just that. My gauge of what is happening between us on a direct level.

    I'm also not racist, sexist or homophobic so don't bother with that kind of noise.
    As far as I know, there are no news reporters or investigators on this site or any other public forum (with the exception of one where I know a journalist regularly posts).

    The media isn't pushing anything and a person can't be pushed if they are able to think critically and independently. The people, We, the People, are the ones fighting amongst ourselves and it's getting hotter by the minute.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those eagerly suckling their partisan media nipple will swallow these numbers as fact. The levels of gullibility would have to be profound to believe this crap.

    I just did a survey of those who played Russian Roulette and found that the game has a 100% survival rate!
     
  14. ToughTalk

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    If the narrative "all white people are racist" hasn't bled down to you specifically is inconsequential. That narrative is there and is being pushed and will lead to further strife. You can elect to bury your head in the sand over it...I don't care.

    But it's there. It's real. And it's causing more harm then Trump ever could. Because it hasn't gone away since Trump left office.

    Here's an example...
    https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1441202362073239553?s=20

    Just a random interaction between students. I never heard of interactions like this before...but they happen ALL THE TIME now pushed by dumb as WOKE narratives brought on by you and your administration.

    Just one of a dozen examples of how divisive your woke media pushed nonsense is. It's not building bridges or understanding or unity or helping marginalized people. It's putting our differences at the forefront. Segregating on race and vilifying people simply because the color of their skin.

    In this interaction the dude and his friend are walking away pissed off at the black chick and she feels great for making the white guy move out of her spot that the college as segregated for her. This doesn't build bridges or understanding or racial harmony. This is going to cause more divisiveness, hate and racists. I mean segregation?..lol. We are back to segregation. It's ****ing 1960's all over again! Weeeee!

    Trump never pushed this ****. He pushed AGAINST this ****. But. Hey! When racial tension keeps building towards a boiling point. Don't act confused about it, k?
     
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  15. Arkanis

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    Yet on this forum, even 10 months after the election, many MAGA's believe Trump won.

    Do you want names?

    And I remember very well that members were also in favor of Trump instituting martial law to nullify the election the day after he lost.
     
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  16. Arkanis

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    Who won the election?
     
  17. ToughTalk

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    The wrong guy.
     
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    Amusing distraction from the steaming pile of lies being presented here. This "survey" is crap. Of course, crap is good according to a survey of 21 million flies!
     
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    Yet, 87 million voted him into office.
     
  20. Arkanis

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    I argue every day on this forum with people who believe Trump is the legitimate POTUS.

    You can't deny that they exist.
     
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    Now, how are you going to convince your MAGA friends that they are wrong to believe that Trump won and that we shouldn't believe in the Big Lie?
     
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    21 million Americans are completely full of ****.
     
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    Are all the crazies gonna dress up like q’anon shaman but all combine to form one massive q’anon shaman like Voltron and then run around destroying the city like Godzilla?
    Oh no!
    Quick. Lock your doors!
     
  24. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can call BS if you try to project their opinions on millions like this BS survey is trying to do.
     
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  25. ToughTalk

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    I could care less? I can't force someone to believe anything. I won't promote it. I accept the results of the investigation and glad there was an investigation. But unlike you, I'm not going to FORCE anyone to do or think anything.
     

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