24 murdered in another attack on Christians

But do you believe they would have gone if they'd had the slightest suspicion they will be under threat? Of course they wouldn't!

They were en route to some religious shrine or other (maybe to where a bunch of kids said they saw the virgin Mary crying tears of blood or something, and everyone believes them! ), and they knew the journey would be hazardous, ipso facto they need not have gone? All religious to'ings and fro'ings to such sites are mindless ritual, as is everything else where 'worship' is concerned. You might not think so but I do.

 

It should be no surprise that White people are doing better than any other group because most of the ideas we have originated in a White nation, Great Britain. So if the philosophy comes from a White Nation and is carried around the world by White people it should not be surprising that many of the success stories we see belong to White people. However other races who have adopted much of the philosophies of the UK (beginning with the Magna Carta in 1215) have done very well also, such as Japan.

They've been reading books by Mohammed somebody rather than by Adam Smith or John Mill so the outcome is predictable.. Backwardness is what we can expect as a consequence but which of these countries want to admit to their own ignorance? They'll still be teaching the Koran in their schools, breeding more ignorance, and then blaming others. It's a cycle repeating itself most everywhere until more enlightened figures within Islam arrive and suggest some changes be made. We know that when those changes are made, and books like Democracy in America or The Wealth of Nations are read, real changes can be made among people of every race.Meanwhile wealthy Muslims are sure to send their children to schools different from those living under them.

Black people in the US are being used as political tools by Leftists leaders, as we have seen since LBJ. Now many are starting to wake up and realize that it is not "White People" who are holding them back - it's the White people (and Blacks seeking high political office or sinecures) running the Democratic Party who are keeping them down. And the Democrats have been taken this to such an extreme that they'll call successful Black people of another political party 'Uncle Tom's', thus holding their real success against them.

I might have also mentioned the Protestant Work Ethic which was actually an incredible movement begun in the UK and worth looking up. I have no stats at hand but believe that Blacks in the Protestant Church today commit less crimes, and enjoy greater success in their lives, than those who aren't part of any Christian religion.

 

Europeans are importing Muslims, and supporting them in their countries, despite the threats they bring. They've become more concerned about "Islamophobia" than the lives of their own people, including their children. The suspicions that these girls are under threat has been around since they were being 'groomed' in Northern and Central England for over a decade. The British leaders are carrying on as though it's still the 1950's and the Britain that was still exists. But of course it doesn't and the Muslims who were born in Britain, and who are arriving daily, have no knowledge of any culture that was, they have a completely different vision for the UK and Europe. The same holds true for all of western Europe. The more Muslims the more innocent people killed, and we know that. We know that.

Like many others you're looking for a reason Muslims want to kill you. Some rationale, an explanation. Why oh why do they want us dead? Why this indiscriminate killing???
Your best bet for an explanation is to go to Muslim websites and check it out for yourself. Or read about how successful an approach terrorism can be when confronting a much more powerful foe. You probably aren't even aware you're in a war, right?

 

I have been to Muslim schools and read the Koran.. What's your experience?

 

My observations, supported by statistics, is that Muslims do not do as well as other groups. In fact they lag far behind in most every area that matters. I don't have to be an Islamic scholar to understand that.

I've asked this more than once but have yet to receive an answer. Can you tell me something positive about Islam that has ever benefited the people who must live under it? What does Islam offer that other religions don't? What good is there in Islam?

 

Of course they would. They live under threat since birth. They're used to it. There have been terror attacks before. There has been a terror attack at one of their churches last month. Life goes on.

 

He's right, Margot. Europeans, and lately Americans, were able to attain such amazing levels of civilization only due to reformation of religion and separation of Church and State. Progress isn't possible without change.

Reading the Koran is not the same as living as a Muslim in a Muslim country.

 

I have lived in Muslim countries as a Christian.. the Ottoman Empire was hard on the Arab world. the Gulf States in particular. Literacy suffered.

Today young educated clerics are taking a look at what is Islam and what was just ancient tribal customs that were presumed to be Islam. So things are changing, KSA has 250,000 people in graduate level studies in law, engineering, medicine, finance, maritime law, etc.. on full scholarships.. They will change the face of Saudi Arabia. They have come a long long way since 1950.

 

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ISIS strikes out of nowhere without warning.. The victims are not to blame for "needlessly exposing themselves".. That's a really repulsive belief.

 

That people are unable to change their fait, does not mean they like it one bit. After all, they are fleeing from it by the millions while very rich wealthy white people want to throw them back to be killed.

 

Running from it, not fighting it. They allowed that disease to fester and said nothing. Now that disease is on the attack and they run.

 

Another in the long line of reasons I rarely come to this forum, some of the posts are astoundingly stupid.

 

I know.. Its a shame. Americans think so highly of themselves and we brag about American exceptionalism, but we have a god's plenty of mean spirited idiots.

 

The Ottoman Empire is geography just as was the British Empire. It's what takes place within those boundaries that matter, and that would be the leadership.

Certainly they may have come a long way since 1950 but it's not clear how. There certainly seems to be a great deal more of Islamic terrorism now and perhaps previously hidden vices, such as honor killings, FGM, etc., were just ignored.

Nonetheless I do hope that these young people, who were also involved in the Green Revolution' in Iran perhaps, are able to change Islam into something more compatible with what most of us would want the world to be. I would prefer that good people just turn their backs on this backward religion but that is very difficult, and dangerous, also.

 

It is rather well known that Iran is leading the way in the asymmetric warfare against ISIS in Iraq. And they Iran does it with Russia in Syria. And so it's almost a muslim only thing that fights. The help they get from the west is minimal. They bombed the Serbs like 2,5 times more often, and Iraq like 20 times more often.

 

Well it would be clear to you if you had lived in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.. and returned to visit years later.

FGM is rare in the GCC and only shows up when the mother is east African.. honor killings are treated like murder.

 

Iran can help more by no longer funding terrorism.

 

Were you playing the violin as the Irish blew up each other? Both sides Christian?
There are wackos of every persuasion.

 

A lot of the posters I detest are not americans, they are pro-iran/russia, etc.

 

That won't happen until the regime is utterly destroyed, which I hope will happen soon. Like next week.

 

The US is responsible/guilty for the creation of ISIS, because it was born in the anarchy the US deliberately created in Iraq. Iran aint funding that, yo. Them muslims are killing it, where you previously claimed they are running away from it. If anybody does that running, it's that Jewish/Christian west who runs away from the massive problems they create.

 

So you are saying Iran doesn't fund terrorism?

 

I am saying the US created these terrorists, who are not funded by Iran.
I am saying muslims are fighting this, where you claimed they run away from it.
I am saying Christians/Jews run away from their massive mistakes.

 

That was only two small examples and I was referring more to the entire Muslim religion.

 

This did not happen in the grand days of Baathist gov't.
Nasser, Sadat, Mubarak.

Big mistake to destabilize Baathist governments.
Iraq. Libya - now a failed state, Syria, etc.
Y'think the working man trying to support his family is feeling the
Blessings of Democracy now?
No. With a totally destroyed economy & infrastructure without any
Marshall Plan, "we" created refugees.

Y'think we can resurrect the Baathist?
They did keep their nation's Islamist in check as FREEDOM cannot.

Moi

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Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​