'30 dead' after truck crashes into crowd at Bastille Days, 'terror attack'

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  1. Jeannette

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    If I recall there were fights between the Tunisian French and the English during the games in Marseille, so I gather he's from France and returned from fighting in Syria. ISIS has a big propaganda going and it does attract many Muslims.

    Russia has the biggest problem with the terrorists, and they did fight two wars in Chechnya because of them. The CIA naturally was supporting the terrorists, and Washington's propaganda was that Russia wasn't treating them right and today its Assad that's not treating the terrorists right. ..but then again what else is new. Anyway that's why Russia is so heavily involved in Syria. At home they will be fighting the problem with religious classes for the Muslim students, that way they can be taught a moderate form of Islam.
     
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    It was all over the news when it happened in Turkey. We're done with sympathy we want action and Trump just called for a declaration of war, and the enactment of the NATO mutual defense pact clause to get boots on the ground to stamp out daesh from Mosul to Aleppo.
     
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    I'm watching news about this on CNN in real time, and the most frightening thing I've heard so far is somebody saying, "A similar attack could occur almost any time, any where, with no incriminating advance preparations being made ... and could even be made on the spur of the moment by a single person acting alone."
     
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    RT is owned and operated by the Russian Ministry of Mass Media and Communications they are not legitimate journalists.
     
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    Ya we aren't going to let Hezbollah jihadist pigs have it either, not that Syria, Russia, or Hezbollah are attacking ISIS and vice versa anyways they only go after the FSA because they are allies in all but name. In fact if it wasn't for the pig Assad refusing to extradite and giving shelter to the Zarqawi boys in Eastern Syria who 95 Marines died to liberate Fallujah from, ISIS wouldn't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing exist!
     
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    Compared to who, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC?

    Every media outlet has some bias, some big, some large. Despite all of that, I've found their coverage, especially of events like this, to be pretty top notch. Unless you can show that they misrepresent or lie significantly more than other news outlets, you're just repeating conspiracy theorist platitudes.
     
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    We've been at war with ISIS since 2004 when it was still AQ in Iraq when Putin's butt buddy Assad was giving shelter to them in Eastern Syria. Russia doesn't target ISIS because they are aligned with Assad they target the FSA and the Peshmerga who are aligned with the US against Assad and ISIS.
     
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    Why are you and some other posters so quick to advocate American boots on the ground? Is it because of ISIS or because Assad is retaking his lands, and you fear Iranian infiltration next to Israel?.
     
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    Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are independent private media outlets which are banned in Russia, how many 24 hour news services does Russia have? They have one; RT and it's owned by the state so spare me your bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    are you kidding, there would be much more road rage, sports rage, bar rage, ect..... that ended deadly

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    short barrels got, no reason for existing... singing that - lol

    what guns do you want banned based on the size of the barrel?

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    Assad isn't taking (*)(*)(*)(*) from ISIS in fact he granted them land deals in exchange for not attacking him and allowing his government to broker the oil they control. Assad has been in bed with ISIS from the get go all the way back in 2004 when they were still known as Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn (AQI) and gave them sanctuary in Eastern Syria and refused to extradite their founder Zarqawi so spare us your bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    ISIS and Al Queda are two different entities who at times are warring with one another. There was no ISIS in 2004. As for Pres. Assad, he is an Alawite, and has a very tolerant and secular nation that gives shelter to anyone trying to save themselves from the 21st century tyrants.

    As for the FSA, they are united with Al Nusra/Al Queda and are giving them American arms ...and if they don't get the hell out of Aleppo, they are going to be killed together with them ...as well as the Turkish officers that are helping them.
     
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    You are so completely ignorant on this subject that it's not really worth me teaching you but I will but I doubt you'll listen.

    I said AQ in Iraq AKA Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād AKA Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn which was led and founded by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi until the US (*)(*)(*)(*)ed him up the ass with a 500 lbs guided bomb in 2006 it has since changed it's name to ad-Dawlah al-ʻIraq al-Islāmiyah the Islamic State in Iraq now known as ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah fī 'l-ʿIrāq wa-sh-Shām ISIL the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. They are the same (*)(*)(*)(*)ing organization that changed their name.

    Assad gave shelter to Tanẓīm Qāʻidat al-Jihād fī Bilād al-Rāfidayn and Zarqawi who were allowed to flourish under his protection in Eastern Syria and metastasize and grow into
    ad-Dawlah al-ʻIraq al-Islāmiyah. It all started with AQI and it was Assad who gave them shelter and continues to refuse to attack them and brokers their oil.

    There is one example of the FSA giving weapons to Al Nusra and they did so because if they didn't they would have been killed.
     
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    I haven't seen any media outlet say this.
     
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    They are not independent. Just because they are not formally controlled or owned by the US government doesn't mean US-based political powers don't exert their influence. The spectrum of political views they present is embarrassingly narrow.

    I'm also not saying Russia is a paragon of objective journalism. Putin runs an obvious propaganda campaign.

    But good reporting is good reporting, and this time RT did a good job. Lots of facts that I saw in alternative places, and lots of diverse analysis from many different figures, mostly Americans.
     
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    Me thinks you're a little confused ...but then again, that's what the MSM does to people. Zarqawi was Bin Laden's second in charge and had nothing to do with ISIS which was formed later by Saddam Hussein's officers. As for the oil stolen from Assad by ISIS, it was being shipped to Turkey until Russia entered the fray and bombed the thousands of oil tankers heading that way. Obviously you haven't seen the videos.

    Erdogan's son Bilal was in charge of the illegal oil, and his brother had the shipping tankers carrying it. It was sold to Ukraine, Israel, Japan and some other countries.


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    I'm just guessing!
     
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    Not me, that's the ATF.

    26" rifle = no problem
    25" rifle = 10 years in jail
     
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    Holy (*)(*)(*)(*) you are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me you are confusing Ayman Zawahiri with Abu Zarqawi and AQ proper with AQI, we're done here I can't have a serious conversation with you anymore it's like confusing Iraq and Iran.

    Assad brokers ISIS oil nice try though the Russian-Syrian businessman George Hawsani who is currently under indictment by the EU:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/syria-crisis-eu-idUSL5N0WA05R20150308
     
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    "Al Qaeda" and "Al Qaeda In Iraq" are two different entities. The former was headed by Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, the latter first by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and now by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (assuming he's still alive). Al Qaeda in Iraq started out as a group called Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, based in Jordan. They moved into Iraq, and after the Syrian conflict changed their name to ISIS.

    I admit it's confusing, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.
     
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    In the US we have those 3 major US based networks and al-Jazeera America, and BBC America, and RT America etc etc et al. Russia? They have RT which is state owned don't try to compare the media in the US to that of the RF because you're going to (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lose.

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    Ya and 95 marines died taking those (*)(*)(*)(*)ers out in Fallujah while Putin's butt boy Assad was giving them shelter in Eastern Syria so they could walk right across the border to retake what 3000+ Americans died for after Obama's premature withdrawal.
     
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    Oh you mean the more objective and factual journalists are, the less legitimate they are... and the more prejudicial and one sided they are the more legitimate they are. Hmmm, I guess then I just prefer the illigitimate ones like RT. :nod:
     
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    lol yes yes we all know that state owned and operated media outlets (especially in Russia) are the most objective on the planet. In Russia they have banned CNN, Fox, MSNBC, al-Jazeera, and the BBC, and all they have left is RT, in the US we have all of them including RT.
     
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    Russia has hundreds of news outlets and most of them are foreign owned. As for all Western media, and that includes the main medias in Europe and Asia, they are all owned by six corporations ...thanks to Clinton who adjusted the laws so they could take them over.

    The corporations that own the mass medias and Washington have the same interests, so if you read one you have read them all. They have no writers, only stenographers that will say what they are told. Otherwise they would ruin their career ...not that it matters, since they're not journalists anyway.

    Now you can come back to me with some more fairy tales.
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    Hm. I don't know about how smart they are, but that does explain his bias.
     
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    Absolute bull(*)(*)(*)(*) every 24 hour news network is owned by the state except one and it is owned by a member of Putin's inner circle, all foreign news networks are banned in Russia so don't give me any of your bull(*)(*)(*)(*), the BBC, CNN, MSNBC, Fox, and Al Jazeera are all banned.

    6 companies don't even control the top ten TV News/Radio networks and newspapers.

    USA today: Gannett Company
    WSJ: News Corp
    NYTs: Sulzbergers
    LA Times: Tribune Company
    Washington Post: Nash Holdings LLC
    NY Daily News: Mort Zuckerman
    NY Post: News Corp
    Chicago Tribune: Tribune Company
    Newsday: Cablevision
    Houston Chronicle: Hearst Corp

    CNN: Turner Broadcasting/Time Warner
    Fox News: Newscorp
    NBC: Comcast
    ABC: Disney
    CBS: Viacom

    And that doesn't even count RT America, BBC America, and Al Jazeera America, France 24 etc etc.

    Thanks for (*)(*)(*)(*)ing playing.
     

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