33 year old homosexual who had sex wtih 16 y.o. boy has commemorative stamp released

Good post.

I am not Gay, but I am a patriotic American, who believes in equal rights and freedom for all. I do not like to see any group spit on, no matter what, their race, gender, religious belief, or sexual preference. And the bottom line, during the time of Milk, gays were a group of Americans who had their civil rights taken advantage of, and he was key to a movement in getting that to stop.

Well put.

 

Bravo, sir. Thank you for that.

 

A gay person sabotaged my business proceeding today, apparently for his own amusement. It blows my mind how the whole world can conclude that gays are skulking beasts, but then the west just spontaneously forgets it because they can't live without having victims around to provide them with some self-righteous mission.

 

Well thanks for sharing that self righteous rant.

 

I would be all for posters, t-shirts and any other item crafted in the private sector

this is the US postal service, not the private sector. So, should a stamp be created for a man who has no accomplishments other than

A: engaging in gay sex
B: hooking up with a 16 year old boy

the answer is no.

If you want to create Harvey Milk is swell merchandise and sell it on Ebay then go for it

 

That is what you say his accomplishments are. Some people think he accomplished great things.

Why are you the judge?

You clearly have an agenda so you will not recognize any of his political activism or accomplishments. You can go all over the internet,and they will list all the things he did, but that will not matter, you will choose to ignore all of them, and be dismissive. You will listen to rumors and accusations over actual facts, to convince yourself that you are right. I understand your agenda completely. Others choose to see him as a hero to a group of people who at the time did not have a voice.

But the bottom line again is, why do you care? No one is forcing you to buy the stamp. Hell if someone sends you a letter with the stamp on it, throw it out, burn it, do whatever. But clearly some people will buy this stamp, so he obviously meant something to them. Why do you care so much?

 

SEC has asked? what else were his accomplishments? Hell, hitler had accomplishments, too..... at what point do the bad things Milk did (gay raping a minor) outweigh any and all of the good things he accomplished in the gay community's eyes?

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because it's only worthy of your concern when a queer feels like he was violated in some way? huh?

 

one more time, heck, try and get him sainthood. But, do not use the US postal service to honor him. Let the private sector do that and please tell me his great accomplishments. I really want to hear what a great man he was.

 

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How many accomplishments does he need- how many accomplishments did Garfield the Cat have to deserve a postage stamp?

Harvey Milk was the first openly gay elected official in the U.S.- at a time when people were still being arrested for being gay. He fought for equal rights and the end of discrimination. He also was a devoted supervisor who served his constituents faithfully, and then was murdered while in office.

If Milk hadn't been gay, none of you would have ever cared that he was being honored with a stamp.

At what point do you even pretend to base your claims on the facts? No one has accused Milk of raping anyone. No one has accused Milk of ever having sex with a minor. Neither Milk, nor anyone else with an actual claim to knowledge ever said that Milk had sex with a minor.

As I have pointed out before- we honor Elvis with a stamp and Priscilla has told us that they were sexual while she was a minor- but none of you bat an eye to that. As I have pointed out before- there is far, far more evidence that Thomas Jefferson had illegal sex with a slave than there is that Milk ever had illegal sex with a minor, but as I recall(perhaps I have mixed you up with someone) for Jefferson you argued that the evidence was not conclusive....but for Milk you don't need any evidence at all.

Milk, Elvis and Jefferson were all far from perfect men, but they have all been on stamps.

Because its only worthy of your concern if you can use the word queer?

 

Who is using the U.S. Postal Service?

Who is forcing the U.S. Postal Service to issue this stamp, in your mind?

We have stamps for Cesar Chavez and Fannie Lou Hamer- we have stamps for Tito Puente and Harriet Quimby (first woman to gain a pilots license in the U.S.).

It would appear that your only objection to Milk, is that he was a homosexual who fought for equal rights.

 

You seem obsessed with Milk and sex. Not everyone- or really even more than a small minority are. Frankly it doesn't take more than a moment to come up with substantive issues- for instance:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0001-0050/hr_41_bill_20120820_introduced.html

WHEREAS, Harvey Bernard Milk was born on May 22, 1930, in
Woodmere, New York. He was elected to the Board of Supervisors of the
City and County of San Francisco in 1977. He was the first openly
gay man to be elected to public office in a major city of the United
States. He was assassinated in 1978 at San Francisco's City Hall by a
political rival. Perhaps more than any other modern figure, Harvey
Milk's life and political career embody the rise of the lesbian, gay,
bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights movement in
California, across the nation, and throughout the world; and
WHEREAS, As an openly gay leader, Harvey Milk encouraged LGBT
individuals to be visible in society. During the Gay Freedom Day
Parade of June 25, 1978, he told the crowd, "Gay people, we will not
win their rights by staying quietly in our closets"; and
WHEREAS, Harvey Milk's legacy as a civil rights leader is still
felt today. Harvey Milk was named one of TIME Magazine's most
influential people of the 20th century. Many institutions and
organizations are named for Harvey Milk, including the Harvey Milk
Recreational Arts Center, the Harvey Milk Civil Rights Academy, the
Harvey Milk Institute, the Eureka Valley/Harvey Milk Memorial Branch
Library, and the Harvey Milk Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender
Democratic Club in San Francisco; and
WHEREAS, In 2009, President Barack Obama posthumously awarded the
Presidential Medal of Freedom to Harvey Milk. The State of California
has designated May 22 annually as "Harvey Milk Day," and Harvey Milk
has been inducted into the California Hall of Fame; and
WHEREAS, The Harvey Milk Foundation, the International Court
Council, and the GLBT Historic Task Force of San Diego have been
leaders in raising awareness of the contributions of Harvey Milk by,
among other efforts, urging the Postmaster General of the United
States to issue a commemorative stamp honoring Harvey Milk; and
WHEREAS, Harvey Milk's life and social contributions have left an
indelible mark on the history of our nation and hold a special
meaning for the people of California; now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Assembly of the State of California, That the
Assembly urges the Postmaster General of the United States to issue a
commemorative stamp honoring Harvey Milk and his work in the LGBT
movement for civil rights and equality; and be it further


What I suspect is behind the opposition to Milk's stamp is this statement:

Perhaps more than any other modern figure, Harvey
Milk's life and political career embody the rise of the lesbian, gay,
bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights movement in
California, across the nation, and throughout the world

 

So, his claim to fame and worthy of the honor is that he engaged in sex differently than 96.4% of adults

thanks for the confirmation

 

Really? That is what you get from "It would appear that your only objection to Milk, is that he was a homosexual who fought for equal rights."

You seem obsessed with Milk and sex. Not everyone- or really even more than a small minority are. Frankly it doesn't take more than a moment to come up with substantive issues- for instance:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/...ntroduced.html

WHEREAS, Harvey Bernard Milk was born on May 22, 1930, in
Woodmere, New York. He was elected to the Board of Supervisors of the
City and County of San Francisco in 1977. He was the first openly
gay man to be elected to public office in a major city of the United
States. He was assassinated in 1978 at San Francisco's City Hall by a
political rival. Perhaps more than any other modern figure, Harvey
Milk's life and political career embody the rise of the lesbian, gay,
bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights movement in
California, across the nation, and throughout the world; and
WHEREAS, As an openly gay leader, Harvey Milk encouraged LGBT
individuals to be visible in society. During the Gay Freedom Day
Parade of June 25, 1978, he told the crowd, "Gay people, we will not
win their rights by staying quietly in our closets"; and
WHEREAS, Harvey Milk's legacy as a civil rights leader is still
felt today. Harvey Milk was named one of TIME Magazine's most
influential people of the 20th century. Many institutions and
organizations are named for Harvey Milk, including the Harvey Milk
Recreational Arts Center, the Harvey Milk Civil Rights Academy, the
Harvey Milk Institute, the Eureka Valley/Harvey Milk Memorial Branch
Library, and the Harvey Milk Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Transgender
Democratic Club in San Francisco; and
WHEREAS, In 2009, President Barack Obama posthumously awarded the
Presidential Medal of Freedom to Harvey Milk. The State of California
has designated May 22 annually as "Harvey Milk Day," and Harvey Milk
has been inducted into the California Hall of Fame; and
WHEREAS, The Harvey Milk Foundation, the International Court
Council, and the GLBT Historic Task Force of San Diego have been
leaders in raising awareness of the contributions of Harvey Milk by,
among other efforts, urging the Postmaster General of the United
States to issue a commemorative stamp honoring Harvey Milk; and
WHEREAS, Harvey Milk's life and social contributions have left an
indelible mark on the history of our nation and hold a special
meaning for the people of California; now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Assembly of the State of California, That the
Assembly urges the Postmaster General of the United States to issue a
commemorative stamp honoring Harvey Milk and his work in the LGBT
movement for civil rights and equality; and be it further


What I suspect is behind the opposition to Milk's stamp is this statement:

Perhaps more than any other modern figure, Harvey
Milk's life and political career embody the rise of the lesbian, gay,
bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) civil rights movement in
California, across the nation, and throughout the world

 

one more time

his accomplishment is that he chose to live the homosexual lifestyle. You can cite "homosexual rights" all that you want but he was a man who had sex differently. He wasn't some new kind of gender or species, he engaged in gay sex, that's it.

So, was it the tryst with the 16 year old lad which earned him the distinction or was it just being homosexual which is what earns him the distinction?

 

Apparently that is all you can accept.

Which is like saying Cesar Chavez's only accomplishment was choosing to live a Latino lifestyle.
Which is like saying that Rosa Park's only accomplishment was choosing to live an African American lifestyle
Which is like saying that Louis Brandais only accomplishment was choosing to live a Jewish lifestyle.

Which really is an amazing way of looking at people.

I listed Milk's accomplishments.

You are unable to see anything but a homosexual.

 

Where is the proof of your previous statement, lets settle one issue before you start throwing up smoke screens.

 

Well your mental issues are none of my concern, but having sex with a kid is pedophilia. Look it up, if you can read.

 

Maybe YOU should look it up, or have somebody read it to you. Having sex with a 16 year old is NOT pedophilia.

 

what previous statements? your the one saying I am wrong about Mary's age, I provided a link from a Christian site, now you counter it if you can

 

So says perverts.

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The statement concerning Mary being 12 years old, Geeez having ADD that severe must be hard on you.

 

No- so says the medical profession:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/pedophilia

 

Age of consent for States with 16 or younger- do you think that everyone in these states are perverts?
STATE
AGE
Alabama
16
Alaska
16

Arkansas
16

Colorado
15
Connecticut
15
D.C.
16
Delaware
16
Florida
16/18 (bill pending)
Georgia
16
Hawaii
14
Idaho
14
Illinois
16/17
Indiana
16

Kansas
16
Kentucky
16 - [1]

Maine
16
Maryland
16
Massachusetts
16/18
Michigan
16
Minnesota
16
Mississippi
16 - [2]

Montana
16
Nebraska
16
Nevada
16
New Hampshire
16/18
New Jersey
16/18

North Carolina
16

Ohio
16
Oklahoma
16
Pennsylvania
16
Rhode Island
16
South Carolina
14/16
South Dakota
16
Utah
16/18
Vermont
16
Virginia
15
Washington
16
West Virginia
16

Wyoming
16

 

Do I think 33 year olds who are having sex with 16 year olds are perverts, HELL YEAH don't you?

 

like I said, I provided a link to a Cristian site about her age, please do the same if you think they are wrong.....

http://christianity.about.com/od/new...otherjesus.htm

"Mary was a young girl, probably only about 12 or 13 years old when the angel Gabriel came to her. She had recently become engaged to a carpenter named Joseph. Mary was an ordinary Jewish girl, looking forward to marriage. Suddenly her life would forever be changed."

.

 

You have no proof whatsoever to back up your asinine comment. Besides, what was the common age that women were married in those days? Any idea? Or just posting rectally again?