35000 Walruses Forced Ashore as Sea-Ice Melts Away

And has this happened yet?

According to the article this gathering on land has been increasing for years so certainly these problems would have started occurring, if even to a small degree by now.

So can you share those links with us about their increasing starvation rates to further solidify your theory?

 

Right. So in order to come up with an alternative theory to today's global warming you need to find an alternative cause that's not the rise in CO2 measured to be caused by man-made industry.

 

And what is to say that we arent just experiencing what happened in previous cycles ?

 

Absolutely. Yes. It's happened. Which is why we are rerouting flights currently to avoid the walruses in order to avoid provoking a stampede.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/01/walrus-alaska-beach-trampled-death

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Well you'd have to go out and show that these things are happening. That the sun is seeing more activity (it's not. It's going down) that we have an abnormal amount of volcanic activity (we don't) that oceanic currents have changed (They're changing as a result of the warming. Not causing the warming.)

 

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There's almost no Ice left for the Walruses.​

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Al, buddy....there hasn't been any warming in the last 17 years. What a tool!

 

There are now twice as many Walrus as there were in the 50's. OMG, must be global warming!

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You say some of the silliest things as if it were fact. You should contact some scientists and correct them.

 

The theory is natural cycles of the earth.... and that man, has very little control, one way or the other.

 

WE are the Dominant species on the planet of another species can't adapt to us they then die its natures way, we may hurt ourselves but humanity is a formidable species to kill off some nations will win and others lose in the struggle.

 

Which natural cycle?

 

You couldn't even pinpoint ONE paper; you sent me to a site with various "peer-reviewed" papers, not exclusive to "global warming." In fact, some pointed to the possibility we were entering an ice age. Finally, these papers are from unreliable sources.

Your inability to prove global warming speaks volumes. Remember, the burden of proof is on YOU, not me.

 

Welcome to science. Theories aren't backed by single peer reviewed papers. They're backed my large amounts of collective evidence. There is no one paper that proves anything. The fact that you're too lazy to go through them doesn't mean it's not valid evidence.

 

Unfortunately for the AGW crowd, observational science is now at odds with the papers. That is the collective evidence other than the silly climate craziness like the OP, which is something Walrus have done forever.

 

Some researchers say that there is scientific documentation that this kind of thing happened in the past.

http://polarbearscience.com/2014/10...-deaths-are-not-new-not-due-to-low-ice-cover/

 

Walruses eat benthic bivalve mollusks that live not on sea ice but on the sea floor. Walruses will rest of the ice but they also go to shore to have their young, fight and breed. And it happens to be when they molt and go on shore to get their old skin off.

This is so lame this is from the link ::: A NOAA release from 2013 calls the large haul-outs a relatively new phenomenon. Last year, a NOAA survey counted about 10,000 walruses on the beach near Point Lay. In 2011, about 30,000 came ashore. The large haul-outs were first noticed in 2007, NOAA said. They are talking about 20007, 2013 and 2011 and then admit that they have seen less sea ice five time since they got satellites. So we are seeing more sea ice than we have of five other occasions.

 

Walrus are only on shore in the summer time. Not in the fall. This is new behavior. You're not doing your research.

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Walrus only live on shore during the summer. They spend 80% of their time in the water. They are not adapted for life on the shore. Their hunting grounds are not at the shore and they are defenseless against large predators on shore, particularly after going awhile with little food.

 

Evidently you are not doing your research.

http://polarbearscience.com/2014/10...-deaths-are-not-new-not-due-to-low-ice-cover/

 

So, you get to pick a single place on the planet to show 'climate change' is devastating the planet. Then I get to pick another single part of the planet to show it isn't:

Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago

Fair is fair!

 

Susan Crockford is a known paid associate of the Hartland Institute. A political group with an agenda against climate change. Cherry pick your sources a little more why don't you.

 

Ah, so the only available scientists that are qualified are the priests in the religion. Got it. Care to comment on the swarms in the 70's, or are you against those facts too?

 

The western ice shelf in Antarctica has already started an irreversible slide into the ocean that will raise coastal sea levels by several meters.
The stupidity and selfish greed that drives the climate change deniers is incredibly short-sighted.

http://www.theguardian.com/environm...et-collapse-has-already-begun-scientists-warn

 

35,000 walruses in one spot? Dress 'em in polyester stretch pants and you'd have a Walmart sale.

 

LOL, more misinformation but I am not surprised. The story is that all of West Antarctica would have to melt to raise it anywhere near that and only a couple of glacial valleys are the ones that are estimated (again, not fact, just an opinion) that could collapse raising the sea level (again and estimate or opinion) by 4 inches and the estimated time span for that is 200 to 900 years.

 

If it slides into the ocean, as it is doing, it displaces its own weight. Sea level rises. Science 101.

 

Wrong again, it is hypothesised that it, mainly one area, is undercut and 'could' slide into the ocean, not the whole West Antarctica. I thought you guys actually believed in the science?

 

Fall? September 15th is the historic low extent of arctic ice, this year it was the 17th.