8 murdered - Suspect charged with capital murder of 6 kids, 2 adults

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    you can lock him up for life but no, you want to be as bad as him.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree.

    I'm not doing it for emotional reasons. Not doing it to torture him or anything else. In order for me to be as bad as him I'd have to track down all his relatives, handcuff them, and then shoot them one by one out of anger.

    We cannot allow people like this to have the opportunity to do it again. Do you believe there is any chance he could be rehabilitated? It doesn't sound like you do, and you're probably as sick this happened as I am.

    Arguably life in prison is a worse fate than death, I just want to make sure there's a zero percent chance this could ever happen to anyone else.

    Rabid animals need to be put down to protect society. There is no advantage in keeping him alive to affect us further.

    Additionally this guy represents a real threat to all the people in prison that are just trying to do their time and get on with their lives. He shouldn't be allowed to threaten them either.
     
  3. Esau

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    i dont believe cops should be executed for killing un armed black people, they should face life sentence. i am not the hypocrite but you, you would allow a cop who murdered an unarmed black man to not only escape capital punishment but actually walk free. now who is the righteous one?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When and where did I say cops should be able to unlawfully kill anyone? I don't give a damn about someone's skin color. Who and what case are you talking about?
     
  5. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    every single one of those.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why are you making things up?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you talking about maybe I missed something.

    Let me set my stance straight in case you're wondering.

    People who commit crimes should be held accountable for their crimes, regardless of race, profession, economic status or any other metric. This is the only argument every one of us should be making.

    The problem that I have with most of the arguments from the left is that they want minorities to be treated fairly and as individuals, while lumping everyone who is white or a police officer as the enemy. That is a true case of "being just like them" which is what I was just accused of.

    If you truly want equal rights then you have to promote them for everyone. That was Dr. King's message if anyone remembers.
     
  8. Mineva

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    How many people dying in US daily ? Do you have a statistic or study about it ?
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Yep, that's what it takes. Your 2A has made everybody defenseless.
     
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    "The RIGHTS......."??! "The RIGHTS" to kill .......6 CHILDREN?

    Sure, he had the 'opportunity' to kill all of them b/c the adults didn't have a weapon to protect themselves and the kids, but where the hell do you get that he had 'the RIGHT' to kill them?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's just another gun-banner trying to use this trajedy to further their own agenda.

    Nevermind they were all handcuffed and defenseless and could have been killed in 100 ways. Let's not focus on the evil of the act, or the individual.

    No, lets go after the 2A.

    Shame on people that do this.
     
  12. Esau

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    That's great. You should tell them that
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, I never seen one mention of the color of his skin, unlike if he were white, it would run non stop for a week

    This is the mentality Americans see everyday in America, and the liberals want to take away our guns.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gender and poverty are the main social covariates when it comes to violent crime. We can reduce poverty and keep more young men in school or employed.

    If we were to look at what deters crime, we'd have to first look at what crime is. Crimes don't always reflect harms: a person who smokes crack could get the same prison sentence as a person who kills somebody. Not only is the system broken, but who says we need it in the first place? 99% of prisoners should be set free and do community custody. Prisons don't rehabilitate or reduce crime.

    Since, tough laws and prisons don't work, we should start looking at this new, artificial English system of law enforcement and asking ourselves if we need it, and if it does more harm than good. Humans survived for millions of years without it.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The retributive system doesn't work. For example, the states with the toughest punishments have the highest violent crime rates. The criminal justice system does not fulfill it's purpose. Law enforcement happens when crime prevention fails. We should be focusing more on preventing crime than sitting and waiting for crime to happen, then getting outraged when it does.

    We've put our faith in a broken system that makes us feel good by giving us our revenge, but doesn't make us any safer.
     
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    Die from what?
     
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    [video=youtube;F3F6EkfD9vw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3F6EkfD9vw[/video]
    US constantly working to create automatic assassins for population manipulation
     
  18. Reality

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    Our criminal justice system is about PUNISHMENT, not about prevention. Someone willing to kill 8 people over a breakup, 6 of them children, and then shoot it out with police is unlikely to be deterred by anything at all. That would assume they were thinking rationally which I think we can agree someone who murders 6 children and 2 adults over a break up is not.

    The death penalty is about putting down a rabid dog, not making that rabid dog an example to the other rabid dogs who don't GIVE A (*)(*)(*)(*) because they are RABID.
     
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    Admirable thinking, Anders.
     
  20. Reality

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    What would your punishment be for him then? Life in prison? Where he can watch TV, get free room and board, never have to work a day in his life ever again, get to be fairly safe as an accomplished murderer in the prison system that gives such individuals fairly high status etc?
    Maybe he needs some reparations too?
     
  21. Reality

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    Its called a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing dog lady. The guy snuck in a window. My dog barks when my fiance, who he's known since I GOT him, shows up on the STAIRCASE to our apartment. My neighbor gets a knock? He barks. Loud noise? He BARKS. ETC.
    Guy sneaks in my window my dog will bark, I'll pull my gun while he's hauling his ass inside and (*)(*)(*)(*)ing shoot him. Easy as that. Why is the dog barking? Its the middle of the night!!! Maybe someone is trying to break in, *pulls gun out, removes safety, finger off trigger but on guard* HARK!! a full grown male in my house that only has children in it and the adult that I just left in the other room! *fires several times* Hey kids you want to see what a dead body looks like?

    Fixed it for you.
     
  22. Esau

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    more or less, yep.
     
  23. Reality

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    Coddling then and on our dime too. You can see why I find that foolish, I'm sure.
     
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    It's why I brought it up. Some were posting about making it harsher by extreme torture and a slow death.
    IMO, that won't be a deterrent to someone insane enough to commit such acts.
     
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    I think it's been shown in the past, that death row costs more to taxpayers than coddling.
    And if they are in a nasty criminal prison, there's the beatings and gay sex things they'd have to deal with. And if prisoners find the crime committed disgusting, like torturing and killing children. They take care of those kind as well.
     

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