9 11 attacks,did usa do it itself or it just let it happen?

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  1. gebril

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    9 11 attacks,did usa do it itself or it just let it happen?
    Did usa administration murder 3000 american citizen in 9 11 attacks to justify starting a war against iraq?
    If al-qaeda did it, why go to kill 2 million Iraqi?
    OIL seem to be the motive of the crime.. which crime? killing of 2 million Iraqi or 3000 american?

    Some of the benefits American say they achieved after 9 11 attacks include:
    *constant flow of oil, which price is in continuous decline. Trump said he will simply take the Iraqi oil, and when he was told that Iraqi oil belongs to iraq he said there is no iraq(after usa destroyed it ).
    *Invasion of afghanstan with construction of not less than 14 american military base which give a close eye on china.
    *Removal of potential threat to isreal represented in iraq which throw isreal with more than 30 rocket after American assault on iraq during 2nd gulf war.

    Can we believe that Al-qaeda personel who received few weeks of aviation lessons in usa and most of them never did fly single engine aircraft alone, can target the towers with a big high sophisticated boeing airplane?
    Usa declared its intent to start creative chaos in the middle east. In order to start all these wars usa needed a big event to use it a as a cause to start these wars and violence. They simply needed something as big as 9 11 attacks.
    Did usa train and supply isis with weapons ‘like it with al-qeada’ to play a major role in creating chaos in the middle east?
    Saddam who lost most of his power in 2nd gulf war and further by siege “in oil for food program which deprived iraq even from pencil for the kid” ,Saddam did not allow al-qaeda to enter iraq , not even to support him against usa.
    But only after usa occupation of iraq, isis started to appear in iraq.
    Did usa pave the way for isis to iraq to play a major role of creative chaos that still burnning iraq?
    Plz publish my questions
     
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    What is this, 2008? The whole "war for oil" canard dried up years ago when none of the major oil contracts in Iraq went to any US companies. Instead they went to Russian and China. So the US allowed the killing of 3000 people for a war to steal oil, and they forgot to steal the oil?

    Please research before you post:

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    No, they didn't. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and everyone knew that. The US didn't need an excuse to go in there, Bush and his fellow neo-cons already had plans to invade Iraq before he got into office, the only thing 9/11 did was delay that invasion because they had to go into Afghanistan first.

    Please do some research. The US did not provide weapons or training to al-qaeda. With ISIS, well inevitably some of the weapons the US dropped to rebels ended up in ISIS hands but I wouldn't have been deliberate.

    Yes.
     
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    A country doesn't do anything, people do.

    The Bush administration stood down on 9/11, that is a historical fact. 3 targets were hit with uncanny precision and totally unmolested under the Bush administration's watch even though they were fully aware of the date and targets.

    http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/11/911-family-member-patty-casazza.html

    They also enabled the event by conveniently conducting several war games on the same day in order to deplete as much of the military response apparatus as possible.[/QUOTE]

    Why it was done is not as important as the fact that they (the real perpetrators) pulled it off. And they (the Bush administration) subsequently covered it up using an unbelievable fairy tale that only makes sense if one believes the hundreds of convenient coincidences and impossibilities of the official 9/11 narrative are possible and all happened on the same day.

    Americans as a people received NO benefits from the 9/11 terrorist attacks, but some of the most powerful and wealthy Americans (and others) not only benefited immensely but are still benefiting from it. 9/11 was the gift that keeps on giving.
     
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    gebril seems quiet.... drive by truthing?

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    Hell yes, high officials like Rumsfeld and others were involved in the planning and execution of the attacks. The reason the pentagon was hit was to get rid of the many auditors working for congress trying to reconcile the missing $2.3 trillion. Mission accomplished, as most of not all of them were killed.

    Senior Instructor CJN is correct about one point--it's old news.

    Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham, Karl Schwarz and E.P. Heidner wrote about this back in June 2008. Inside job, all the way.
     
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    let your imagination run wild ...
     
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    5 minutes in ... book pimp ... why aren't they available at Barnes and Noble? ...

    I haven't seen this one before so I will edit as I come across any points I want to address ...

    5:46 ... the 2300 architects and engineers are not all, but very few actually involved in designing and building high rise buildings ... so that's a lie

    6:00 ... 85% of Americans don't believe the official version? ... source? ...

    7:00 ... the Memorial was designed by a Jew ... relevance? ... ( just did a Google ...anti-semite)
     
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    Funny how details to conspiracy theories seem to get added over time.

    - The $2.3T was never missing.
    - The $2.3T in unaccounted transactions was an accounting problem known about and first reported in 1999, before Rumsfeld got into office.
    - A huge amount of these unaccounted for transactions were accounted for in 2002 and 2003.
    - No truther has ever managed to provide evidence that anyone in that section of the Pentagon was working to account for this money.
    - Financial records available from the Pentagon show only the Department of the Army was unable to produce a stand alone statement for FY2001, but it was accounted for by the agency wide FY2001 statements anyway.
    - No truther has ever explained why, if this money was stolen and all evidence about to be wiped from the planet, did Rumsfeld talk about it in a speech the day immediately before the attacks?
     
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    can't continue to edit my critique of Bollyn's opinionated piece of garbage ... at about the 8 minute mark, he described the JFK Memorial as being designed as a sniper's nest ...

    I will keep watching for the laughs though ...
     
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    That's better than having none at all. One without an imagination asks no questions.
     
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    false dichotomy ... your imagination runs wild while my reasoning skills take precedent ...
     
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    Yeah I can tell the immense prowess of your "reasoning skills" by the fact that you bought the OCT and your liberal use of silly terms such as "troofer". The former requires zero imagination, authority said, therefore it is. The latter requires no explanation. You did say it was a hobby, right? You should try knitting, perhaps you'd be better at that.
     
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    my hobby is exposing the lunatic fringe ... and it's fun ...
     
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    Enjoy yourself little one.
     
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    Trust me, I am ... I have another engineering conference in Jersey City coming up in April ... those are always fun ...
     
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    9-11 was an Al Qaeda operation.. Read Osama Bin Laden's fatwas.

    Trump is stupid about the oil business.. When we invaded Iraq, we killed their oil production for nearly a decade. The oil business hates a war zone.
     
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    You are easily indoctrinated if you really believe that AQ business.
     
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    Remember all of the gold bars that were supposedly stolen from ground zero? Amazing how they don't play that tune any more. Supposedly there was more gold there than at Fort Knox.

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    Rumsfeld was in a building he knew was going to be hit with a jet liner? :roll:
     
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    No, he was in a building that he knew had been prepared for an explosion. He was on the other side of a fairly large building, and he knew that the purpose of the explosions were to take out the relevant materials to the congressional audit. Mission Accomplished! Not exactly rocket science.
     
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    They weren't AQ personnel. They were young intellectuals going to school in Europe.. and NO the US didn't do 9-11.

    Al were qualified pilots with the exception that they couldn't pass the international language of pilots.
     
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    :roflol:

    I love reading your posts. You really should demand payment from the comedy writers guild or something. First we have people staging light poles for “theatrics” then hijacking planes because of the “optics” or whatever you said. Now, we have a conspirator volunteering to be in the building he knew was going to get hit on 9/11???
     
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    If, as you say, you have reasoning skills you should use them....what you are saying some guy in a cave in Afghanistan can defeat the trillion dollar air defense system in the USA, get all the military aircraft to stand down, get airport security to ignore his 19 Saudi Arabian operatives and their "box cutters" and have these operatives trained well enough to commandeerand fly large jet airlines and find and hit the targets? lol...now that is a conspiracy theory...whale of a tale....
     
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