9 11 attacks,did usa do it itself or it just let it happen?

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  1. Cornergas

    Cornergas Active Member

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    No they weren't qualified pilots, even on small Cessna aircraft....they did not qualify to fly these aircraft, let alone complicated jumbo commercial aircraft....and do you think professional pilots would give up their aircraft to a couple of puny arabs with "dreaded boxcutters" brrrrr...that would never happen....these patsy arabs could not even find NYC let alone hit the towers dead on...IMPOSSIBLE.....and many commercial pilots and military pilots say the same thing....IMPOSSIBLE.... see Pilots for 9/11 truth
    and Yes the evidence points directly to the US doing 9/11 to itself..a self inflicted false flag operation to justify eternal wars in the Middle East and elsewhere...Washington is following the globalist agenda obviously...
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There is no and never was a trillion dollar air defense system for the USA.

    Military aircraft did not stand down.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    You do not have to be a CERTIFIED pilot to fly a jet once it is in the air for you. Bare minimum pilot training is all that is necessary to keep it flying and that is what they had.

    Finding NYC is easy you travel east until you hit the coast and then go north or south to you see the city which is unmistakable.

    Very easy to hit the largest towers in NYC and not a problem at all for a novice with minimal training.

    Pilots for 911 truth are proven wrong and most members are not pilots.
     
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    A country and its government are two entirely different entities. Criminals who pretend to govern a country such as the US do NOT represent the US or Americans. The vast majority of Americans do not approve of either the Executive or Legislative branches of the US government and more disapprove of the Judiciary branch than approve according to the most recent polls. The US did not do 9/11 to itself, it was a bunch of criminals who did, and some of those criminals within the highest positions in the US government did everything in their power to ensure 9/11 was successful and may have also been involved in the planning and execution. There is an enormous amount of circumstantial evidence that strongly indicates that possibility. Many people have been convicted on far less circumstantial evidence.
     
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    There is no evidence at al for any of this.

    If there were you would have posted it
     
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    How many times does one have to post evidence? You fail to read it or maybe have a problem in reading...whatever the reason...your posts are pointless and without any meaning...
     
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    You seem to think your know more about flying commercial aircraft than the commercial pilots and fighter pilots who have commented on this subject..not onte but thousands of them....typical of someone who does not do any research, or cannot read, or would sooner live a lie, and follow the government conspiracy theory....I will rely on the testimony of the experts, the commercial and fighter pilots who say it cannot be done.
     
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    You are right, people have gone to execution on far less evidence than is available against the thugs in government who arranged, planned, and let 9/11 happen..unfortunately these thugs represent the country on a global scale, and there seems no respite from their criminal activity while representing the country. what is the answer?
     
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    These people are pathological deniers, it's the official fairy and nothing that questions or contradicts it exists no matter how obvious and how many times it's posted. I don't post evidence for them, I use them to post evidence so that those who genuinely want to know the facts that the US government and its puppet media will never publish can actually learn them.
     
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    There is an answer we have learned from history and our founders in particular (see my signature). Even the massive and powerful Soviet Union empire was toppled and its grip on Eastern European countries and even its own states were released. But it won't happen unless the people reach a point of no return. Exposing 9/11 for what it really was might be the catalyst, I don't know but everyone has a right to be informed and make their own individual decision.
     
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    You have never posted evidence to read in the first place.

    I HAVE read the things you have posted and debunked each of them showing how they are false.

    So yes my posts do have meaning..Yours do not
     
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    Wrong not thousands or even hundreds. The vast majority agree with me. The rest are just conspiracy loons.

    You have no such testimony to rely on and you cannot refute the facts I stated.
     
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    Pilotsfor911truth are neither telling the truth nor pilots.

    It is an organization open to anyone who wishes to join and they screen no one.

    The people who join that website are convenience store clerks, janitors, fast food workers and maybe even the occasional licensed pilots.

    They are not a credible source and have no expertise.
     
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    Discussing anything with an anonymous troll, especially that one, is a total waste of time. They are only useful for bringing out discussion points. Real experts who are not afraid of identifying themselves know the deal.

    FDR Expert Dennis Cimino further goes on to state:

    t just all comes down to two data fields being zeroed out. no tickee, no laundry. without those, there can... never be any linkage of the FDR to an 'N' number in the F.A.A. registry. not because the 'N' number is in the AC ID field, but the AC ID FIELD number is directly traceable to an N-Number in the F.A.A. registry, and the FLEET ID shows which carrier it went to.

    [T]hose missing, that [data] could come from anywhere...

    [N]obody flies boxes with that data zero'ed out or missing. without this data in the CPM [Crash Protected Memory], in the preamble, there can be no linkage to an aircraft N-Number.

    I saw that on the first look.... the test person who extracted that data should have seen the NO ACFT ID and NO FLEET ID and said; "oh, this is such bullshit" and then asked his supervisor why they were asking him to decode BULLSHIT.


    Dennis Cimino experience and qualifications:

    Electrical Engineer
    Commercial Pilot Rating, since 1981
    Navy Combat Systems Specialist: RADAR, ECM, cryptographic communications
    Flight Data Recorder Engineer Smiths Aerospace
    BA-609, IDARS, Military and Commercial
    Millimeter wave RADAR and countermeasures expert since 1973
    Two patents held for Doppler RADAR ( Kavouras ):
    long pulsewidth RADAR droop compensation network,
    and wave guide arc detection for high powered RADAR

    For me the most convincing argument that none of these alleged planes are the officially claimed airplane (AA77, AA11, UA93 and UA175) is the fact that not one single piece of allegedly recovered debris was forensically matched to the logs for the respective airplanes, not even the FDRs. This is standard NTSB crash investigation protocol with all airplane disasters. And what's even more convincing is that FOIA requests for such a forensic match were categorically (and illegally) denied. That means like everything else about 9/11, they're HIDING something (read COVERUP). You would think that they would be eager to release such information to prove that the debris actually belongs to those claimed airplanes to prevent any possible controversy if the official story had any merit.

    See also this:

    Of all major U.S. airline crashes within the U.S. investigated and published by the National Transportation Safety Board during the past 20 years, the 9/11 'black boxes' are virtually the only ones without listed inventory control serial numbers.

    NTSB American Airlines flight 77 flight data recorder report, not noting a device serial number:

    http://www.911myths.com/AAL77_fdr.pdf

    NTSB United Airlines flight 93 flight data recorder report, not noting a device serial number:

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc04.pdf

    With flight data recorder serial number data that is virtually always provided within NTSB reports of major U.S. commercial airline crashes that occur within U.S. territory, one can trace an installed device to a particular registered aircraft through manufacturer or airline records.

    The following e-mail was provided by a Susan Stevenson of the NTSB on 12/26/2007, in response to a 12/16/2007 public correspondence e-mail inquiry:

    "Yes. NTSB investigators rarely encounter a scenario when the identification of an accident aircraft is not apparent. But during those occasions, investigators will record serial numbers of major components, and then contact the manufacturer of those components in an attempt to determine what aircraft the component was installed upon."

    Because of the criminal nature of the 9/11 attacks, the FBI became the lead investigative agency into the 9/11 aircraft mishaps, along with the requested aid of the NTSB. It is possible that the FBI seized FAA 9/11 aircraft records containing component serial number data for aircraft identification purposes and that the FAA no longer possesses them.

    http://www.ntsb.gov/pressrel/2001/010913.htm

    By document labeled "Testimony of Marion C. Blakey, Chairman National Transportation Safety Board before the Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation United States Senate", it is indicated that the NTSB assisted the FBI with the process of "aircraft parts identification" regarding the said aircraft.

    http://911blogger.com/node/14081
     
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