if any of my statements are wrong please kindly correct me. from what i understand too date 10 hijackers DNA has been found ? ( how was the DNA confirmed if no samples were available from hijackers families etc? ) and 1208 Victims DNA is Yet Too Be Found,? i understand that over 19,000 fragments of victims is in storage yet so so many families are yet to get any sort of closure , Why is that? here is a Direct Quote from a Victims Family: ""You can find DNA from the Civil War, World War I and World War II," he said. "But you can't find DNA from first responders or civilians?" am i correct in assuming DNA can be taken from Bones, ? so why still no ID on the thousands of fragments? how did so many people become so badly damaged ( not even DNA survived) in a building collapse?
It's not that they became badly damaged. It's that two (*)(*)(*)(*)ing 110-story buildings fell on them. It's not even like looking for a needle in a haystack. It's like looking for one particular grain of sand on all the beaches of the world.
Given that it's where the quote you gave comes from, I suspect this is the link you accidentally forgot to add to your post; http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/No-Closure-For-Unidentified-9-11-Victims-Families-20110908-APX That would be a little odd as it answers some of your questions. It's a long and difficult process to find the fragmentary remains, carry out the DNA profiling and search for matches among a large database of possibilities. I couldn't find anything about all 10 hijackers having their DNA identified. I gather they have matches some of the fragments to DNA found in the hijackers car, so have identified it as one of them though don't know which. I didn't look very long or hard to get that much and there seems to be a vast amount of information out there (albeit a lot from suspect sources). I'd be amazed if you couldn't get a much clearer picture of the situation with a little time and effort though, rather than just throwing out a couple of random questions here.
I knew the twin towers would collapse.. and was praying.. get out, get out, get out. If you look at the original designer Minoru Yamasaki... if you are familiar with any of the other buildings he designed and the alterations to his design made by the Ports Authority, you would have been expecting them to collapse too.
Closure for the victims families? What part of the photograph has to do with closure for victims families or victim remains identification?
do you have esp or do you work for the gubafia? what alterations, and you dont mind being so kind as to post your work on the subject so we can check it out do you? If what you say is true lots of partys need to be sued.
The buildings were built to withstand the impact of the biggest planes at the time, which were very similar to what actually hit them. Like a pencil being poked through a screen door. Actually, it could have withstood multiple plane impacts. Demolition was the key to bringing them down. Not the planes.
Hi thanks for your answear - However you missed the point ! DNA is found in cells - we have billions upon billons of cells ! No matter how many floors fell on top of you billions of cells would survive ! DNA can be taken from bones also ! So again please can some one tell me We have over 20,000 remains of 911 victims ! Why has idetifying these remains so hard ?
I just don't undertand it ! How can a building collapse destroy DNA ! Even when victims are burnt alive DNA can be used ! 1208 victims who have yet to be buried ! If that's not a conspirarcy I don't know what is ?
Put a paper cup on the ground. Two of them. On one stack books on it till you see structure failure. On the other cup, put a firecracker in it. That is not collapse. That is explosion. That image, is clearly an explosion. The building hit the ground in less than ten seconds. That is free fall speed with ZERO resistance. Where was all the resistance? It was blown out of the way as the buildings fell. This is apparent in the image. That was no collapse.
1. Paper cups do not mirror the structural systems in the WTC in any way. You want a model? Try to build a tube in tube structure 110 stories tall out of 3 inch spaghetti strands. You're going to need a ladder. It'll be more then 27 feet tall. You're going to need an engineer to help you out too because it's only going to be 4 feet wide. Last, and most importantly, you're going to need to build it on a more massive planet. On this planet square cube law dictates that your model will necessarily have a greater strength to weight ratio then the actual towers even though those were made of steel and yours is made of pasta. 2. The WTC did not collapse because books were stacked on it. It collapsed because the structural system necessary to hold the building up was compromised by impact damage and fire. In your book on the cup scenario it's the mass of the books that overload the structure. In the WTC it was the mass of the structure itself that overloaded capacity. For the outer columns especially, the structural systems below were dependent on systems above for lateral strength. With that strength removed, the inertia of the falling mass from above was enough to buckle columns below outward, creating that mushroom effect that you see in the photo. 3. Cutter charges meant to shear columns in structural systems typically do not send debris outward in an explosion. They are shaped charges that direct energy directly through the column. Their purpose is to reduce the total amount of ejecta, not send stuff flying outward. In the WTC collapse, the ejecta was directed outward by buckled columns hinging outward as the floor trusses that tied them to the central core were sheared. If they had been cut with charges, there would have been no hinge. Debris would have simply fallen downward.
The towers were NOT the typical cloumn and beam type structure. There were no columns to cut The only thing they needed to do was to place explosives on the inside and bottom of the core. That is what we see as they come apart, the core being obliterated from the inside, with a blast wave moving downward.
There were no columns to cut? You mean the exterior facade didn't contain columns? Maybe they cantilevered the entire thing off the core....
You sure you want to stick by that statement? Because. That's just I don't even A column is anything that resists a load parallel to its length. A beam is anything that resists a load perpendicular to its length. Some structures do BOTH. The entire building can be thought of as a column in respect to gravity The entire building can be thought of as a cantilever* in respect to wind load. *(a beam for you folks in the cheap seats)
So why'd they need the planes, then? Fang and NAB are doing a great job with the structural engineering aspects of it, but frankly it's not even needed. Simple logic and application of Ockham's Razor destroys every statement made by the 9/11 Deniers, because all of their theories necessarily require leaps of illogic and layers of unneeded complexity.
SOrry cat, but it IS a colapse,the 'explosiveness' of the collapse is due to material collapsing forcing previously collapsed material out of the way.....and it went straight DOWN also the towers took longer than 'less than ten seconds Give it up.
That question has been hanging around ten years of conspiracy theories and I've never even seen any attempt to answer it.
I agree - however wasn't the below floors intact ? Why would the above floors collapse or fail if they were not hit or were on fire ? How could the below floors fail ? They were holding up the towers for decades - why would they fail. ?
Wouldnt that lose energy ? Meaning wouldnt that mean the floors at the very bottom survive ? How could the momentum of the collapse be maintained ? Thanks for letting me know I have s Always heard that bush may have let it happen , but this about collapse=expolosion is something new
Which portion was that ? I have seen the nearby structures intact and then demolished after wards during the clean up operation . But as for the two major twin towers , no visible structure was left ? Meaning each floor including the lobby was gone only a fee outer Walls remained ( the iconic image which is always used )
