A few scenarios to consider

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Nightmare515, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I usually dont spend much time on this particular subject but I thought I'd ask a few questions and share a few opinions of mine.

    Now we all know that when it comes to the legality of abortion women hold all of the cards because she is the one who must carry the child.
    This is fact.
    If a woman becomes pregnant and doesn't wish to keep the child but the man wishes to keep the child then the man has no legal authority to force her to do so. This is fact
    If a woman does wish to keep the child and the man doesn't wish to keep the child then again the man has no legal authority to force her to have an abortion.
    This is fact

    Even though it takes a man and a woman to create a life it is ultimately only the mothers choice on what she chooses to do by law.

    Many will argue that this is morally correct because it is the woman who must carry the child, and not the man, therefore she should have the ultimate say so. And until men can develop the ability to have children then the law should stand in favor of the woman. These are valid points and I can understand the reasoning behind these points.

    Now in the court of law a man must either agree to raise the child with the mother or pay child support to support the child financially. The fact that the man either wanted or did not want the child is irrelevant in the court of law. I understand this as well because once a child is born they will need to be taken care of in some form, and the child didn't ask to be here so they shouldn't suffer because of the parents negligence. Now if the man doesn't want to do either of these options he can request that the mother take full custody of the child but the decision must be mutual.

    After looking at all of this I realize that the subject of abortion is one of the few cases where the law is lopsided in favor of a single person. Whether this is right or wrong is irrelevant, this is fact.

    Now knowing that the law is lopsided I have sadly seen women irresponsibly and unjustly abuse the ultimate power that they posses. I have close friends of mine in this situation on both sides, men and women.
    In one case I knew a couple who had been together for about 2 years and were planning on getting married soon. They wanted children at some point in the future but not at the moment. So I was told anyway. One day the woman decided to stop using her birth control without letting her partner know. She became pregnant and the man was less than thrilled. When he asked her how this happened she told him truthfully that she stopped using her birth control because she wanted to have children now. So this was no longer a joint decision it became her decision alone.

    Now many will also argue that having sex with protection, birth control etc that both parties know the risks and that nothing is fool proof and both should accept the consequences if the birth control fails. I agree with this stance. However, in this particular case I believe it is wrong for her to do that without the consent of her partner. The birth control didn't fail it was deliberately discontinued with the sole intent of getting pregnant without letting the partner know. To me this is wrong and an unfair abuse of power. In this case, due to the woman's intentional dishonestly, the man should in fact have a say so in whether or not she has the child. The consequence of purposefully lying to your partner should be that you no longer have full control over the outcome of the pregnancy. If the contraception had failed then the woman should keep full rights. But if a woman does something such as the aforementioned case then I believe the man has the right to either terminate the pregnancy or refuse any support of the child by law.

    I have sadly also seen men who deliberately remove a condom during intercourse with the sole intent of impregnating the woman. I know a guy who, in his words, had a "hot" gf and wanted to keep her around forever. He figured the best way to do that would be to get her pregnant. She didn't use birth control so they had sex with condoms. One day he decided to deliberately take it off during intercourse to get her pregnant. Again when he was confronted about it he told her the truth. She didn't want children with him and subsequently had an abortion. He fought for her to just remain pregnant and give the baby to him once it was born since she didn't want to be with him. She refused. In this case I believe she has every right to do so. The consequence of deceit for the man is that the woman can decide whether or not to keep the child. He was dishonest therefore he abandoned his right for an opinion. To this day he still talks about how upset he is that he lost his child, or potential for a child depending on who you ask. I have zero sympathy for him because he was intentionally dishonest with this woman.

    So these are my opinions, what do others here think about these situations?
     

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