A Final Tribute To Whites

why should he feel the need to launch a tirade, there are plenty of posters here (in this very thread) that fills that quota....almost daily.

 

The black family wasn't broken down over time, it was eliminated almost completely, and there are a host of issues that stunted it's recovery.

Including generational welfare abuse, Jim Crowe laws, institutionalized discrimination and segregation, and other factors.

When you take into account the family elimination starting in the mid 1600's, going up to affirmative action starting in the 1970's, that's like 250 years, and with that perspective in mind, the effects of long term social disadvantages could take more time to reverse.

Many who come to the unsupported conclusion that blacks are inferior seem to think the family structure for blacks would miraculously recover within a few generations after the implementation of affirmative action, and offer an incomplete recovery as evidence that blacks are inferior. I don't subscribe to this hypothesis

 

There's a lot of hatred on this forum for the white working class because they cling to their guns, religion and identity. The white working class will become a separate people within the country.

 

Only if you want to be.

 

Did you not just read what I posted from the Census bureau? Black people were more likely than whites to be married and in a family prior to 1960. Their family unit seemed stronger at one point, and this was long after the days of slavery. Now, 50 years later, long after Jim Crowe and all the other things you listed, when you see a black kid, there's a 75% chance he has only one parent in his/her household. What else besides generational welfare policies could have caused this?

 

The changing morality and rising divorce rates. In the 50's men were supposed to marry women, and divorce had a stigma. Now, it's perfectly acceptable for women to be single mothers.

 

I agree. And a big part of why this acceptability exists is because of our welfare policies that allow it to happen.

 

The breakdown of the family is an issue, although I'd consider it a lesser one than a society that forces people to stay together even through extreme abuse.

Before divorce lost most of its stigma, domestic abuse was far worse.

 

But divorce rates and the changing morality regarding marriage/child rearing is increasing for all races. Some less than others, some more than others.

I don't think single parenthood is always disadvantageous.

I think you're heaping too much blame onto institutional welfare abuse. It should end IMO, and the financial incentive to have more children really really needs to go...but I'm still not seeing any proof that blacks are inferior

 

How much worse? Is it worth the increase in gang membership that was caused by kids growing up with only a mom in the house?

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I never said blacks were inferior. I said they were different, like all races are.

 

Do you think blacks are inferior by nature?...or just presently showing statistics that might suggest they are inferior because of institutionalized/generational welfare?

 

I think all races have their strengths and weaknesses. I think I've said that several times in this thread alone.

 

I don't believe this for one simple reason. A person is capable of doing anything they want to do, if they set their mind to it. A black person can become an astronaut just as easily as a white person can play in the NBA. Whats socially expected of a person dictates what they will achieve in life. I grew up in what I believe to be the roughest city in the country. I was told time and time again that I would end up dead before I was 20. For a while I believed it. Not because I was black, but because thats kind of what was expected of me. Nobody, except my parents had any reason to believe I would not end up dying before I was 21. The bar was rather low, and if not for a real wake up call via old Malcolm X videos on Youtube, who knows where I would be right now. Being black didn't hold me back from achieving anything I already have, and will. Thinking that my blackness would keep me from achieving everything I have and will would have though. Most people will "Stick to the norm" if you will, and thats how their life will play out, and thats fine. I don't think we need more white NBA players, or black astronauts, in the name of "equality". People should be free to do whatever they want, and be judged on that.

 

While single parenting can lead to that, I think that also stems from other factors like poor public amenities and the War on Drugs.

 

Look what happened to this country during the Prohibition years. The Mobs shot up New York and Chicago every day. Its no different now. Just the people shooting have darker skin. And of course, its so terrible.

 

Do you think the weaknesses black people have are caused by institutionalized generational welfare?, or are they genetic?, or are they a combination?

I'm not so interested in what you say, I'm more interested in how you think

 

Yep. Ending the War on Drugs would fix a lot of the problem. Gangs would lose a lot of markets.

 

Irish and Italian rum runners used to be thought of as outlaws, sure enough...and they also caused law abiding Irish and Italian folks to suffer through the same kind of gross racial generalizations

 

Absolutely...think of how much less of a problem the Mexican border would be without the drug cartels being financed by American drug users.

In fact, at the risk of going off topic......if we dramatically reduced our dependence on foreign oil, and drugs...we'd be sooooo much better of, in many many ways

 

I don't agree with this. Whites are not as likely to be in basketball because they are usually shorter than blacks and their leg muscles are different. I gave a link to a Sports Illustrated article a few pages back that go over different physical differences between the races and why blacks are better at running and jumping sports, in general.

Sounds like you're working on an autobiography. Might not be a bad idea... plenty of guilty white folk would love to read all about your struggles and adversity in the brutal white man's world.

I love the double standard that exists in society where black supremacist Muslims are revered as heroes.

I agree.

 

The drugs issue is actually more imperative. We get more oil from Canada than anywhere else. Our dependency on Middle Eastern oil is relatively low. It wouldn't be that hard to replace our consumption of Saudi Arabia's oil with either more Canadian oil or domestic production.

 

Sure, there's no single cause, but it's been established that boys growing up in single parent households are more likely to join gangs. It makes sense... all kids want protection and to feel included in a group.

 

I'd say a combination.

That doesn't make sense. What I say is a function of how I think. You wouldn't know how I thought unless you cared enough to read what I say.

 

Well, let me give an example of why I focus less on the single parenting thing.

There is a significant group of Latino male youths in the American Southwest that end up joining gangs as well, but most of these kids aren't raised in single parent households. For them, it's a combination of excessive machismo in their culture and just boredom. As a countermeasure, things like soccer leagues are set up to occupy these kids. Most of the time, it seems to accomplish its purpose of keeping kids out of gangs, but there have been some problems too (like that kid who put a soccer ref in a coma).

 

That's a good point. I think my desire to reduce our foreign oil dependence is rooted in my desire to stop considering the middle east a national interest of the US.

But yeah...if drugs were legalized and regulated, you wouldn't have the crime associated with it, and heroin junkies wouldn't be dropping like flies because of bad dope, and so on.....I'm actually for legalizing just about all drugs, even heroin and meth...and I don't even do drugs anymore