A little perspective on the chance that you will be a victim

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  1. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    A little perspective for those that think there is a much of a chance that innocent people are being killed by guns in the US.
    0.000008564102564% in fact.

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    Vegas giants Banned

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    My god not only does America have a gun problem it is a bloodbath that needs to stop
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I guess you are completely unable to read what he posted. hyperbolic hysterics aside, you're absolutely WRONG.
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    As usual you are flat out wrong and the REASON we have a gun control forum in the US is because of out massive gun death problem. Time for real gun control
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's a complete bit of BS- the Klan passed gun control in the south not because of a massive death problem but so they could harass freed blacks. The Irish mob passed the Sullivan law in NYC not because of massive deaths but because they wanted to shake down Italian immigrants. The Gun control act of 68 was passed because Democrats started losing elections because they were soft on violent street crime. The clinton gun ban was passed even though the guns targeted were used in less murders than fists and the Hughes Machine gun ban was passed for no other reason than to try to derail a pro gun bill. SO you are flat out wrong about why gun control is passed. and when you squeal for real gun control that obviously means something more than your parrot cries for JUST A FORM
     
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    There is not a single honest thing in your entire post
     
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    go ahead and prove it wrong. are you claiming the Klan passed gun control for a reason other than disarming freed blacks? how many deaths were caused by legally owned machine guns from 1936-1986? of course that would require you to actually understand the history of gun control
     
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    Prove it right. It is made up nonsense
     
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    Find a solution that targets 60% of all gun deaths that turn out to be suicide related and i’ll listen.
    Find a solution that targets the remaining 80% of gun deaths that are gang related and i’ll listen.
    The rest of the gun deaths do not represent a bloodbath, in fact we wouldn’t even be talking about them because they are so low for a country of our size.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you're just mad you are unable to rebut it. how many crimes were committed with legal machine guns in the fifty years before the Hughes Amendment? How many murders were committed with "assault weapons" prior to the clinton gun ban?


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    Indeed, it was not. As the Special Report of the Paris Anti-Slavery Conference of 1867 found, freedmen in some southern states “were forbidden to own or bear firearms, and thus were rendered defenseless against assault.” Thus, white supremacists could continue to control freedmen through threat of violence.
     
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    He cannot come out and say his real motivations for wanting to harass lawful gun owners. So he is forced to defend his facade of crime control. but the facts don't support that, so his argument is idiotic
     
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    No it's about saving lives. It's just a form
     
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    I have. You won't even fill out a form
     
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    i wouldve read that as sarcasm if it was anyone but you

    you are something else...
     
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    We have the highest gun death rate by far of any first world nation on the planet. It's a bloodbath
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disarm Democrats so we can see how well it works. There are more Democrat criminals by far than other parties.
     
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    Gun control by political beliefs....just like a nazi
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It saves lives. just what you want.
     
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    Maybe you can concentrate them all into some kind of....oh I don't know....camps. Sound Herr Robert?
     
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    This 'we' you speak of... its mainly urbanites. WE in 'the sticks' know about the horrors of living in big cities, and we avoid them. 'We' (who refuse to live in the opolis) do not have a gun problem, or even a violence problem. 'They' (who live atop one another with no room to breathe) have a violence problem, and 'we' are not surprised. 'We' (as you would put it) have a city problem, not a gun problem.
     
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    Actually it was a Democrat who interned Americans.
     
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    Statistics are interesting and interpreting them is fun.

    But if you are that 1 in 360 million then the statistics were deceiving and irrelevant.

    I prefer to think of the risk of danger in terms of possible/impossible.

    Particularly since I was once on a subway car when it was taken over by 2 gang members and they beat the crap out of somebody until he was bleeding for whatever reason that I never found out. That was on my way to work. That day it would have been good to be armed. That day I was not.

    Now I am armed 24/7/365.
     
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    And we need gun control to handle our city problem. Duh
     
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    wrong as usual, we need criminal control to handle urban criminals
     
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    Well we should try to reduce all gun deaths.....even though you don't care about half of them
     

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