A question for Christians

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by ARDY, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps you should ask a Muslim.
     
  2. Distraff

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    Why would I as a secular person want criminals released from jail? They will start causing havoc. Doesn't sound too good. I'm fine with keeping the bad guys locked up and away from me.
     
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    I wonder what a Muslim thinks your Pascal's wager odds of getting to heaven are.
     
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    If there is no morality, then how can you calling anything tyrannical?
     
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    Another atheist paradise is Norway.
     
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    Stamp out all religion and all moral codes old and new to live by -- just as an experiment to see what the hell happens.
     
  7. Robert E Allen

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    Why do you think they are bad guys?

    You are no more a moral authority than they are..
     
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    Becauae controling other people is tyrannical.
     
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    All I know is that them being loose is just bad for me. People who are bad news for other people, are best behind bars for my peace of mind.
     
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    Why is that? I got my baby to sleep last night. Am I a tyrant now?
     
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    Not really, only 29% are atheists, and 71.5% belong to the Lutheran Church of Norway, which receives state support. Even the atheists there are parasites living off their Judeo/Christian heritage.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Norway
     
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    Like they do in atheist North Korea.
     
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    So you're a totalitarian.. got it.
     
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    If you tell your pastor you are leaving the church, and also abandoning all Christianity, what happens? Do they send the biggest deacon to knock the hell out of you and drag you back through the door, or do they let you go on your way in complete freedom?
     
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    I was born in Denmark which means according to the very same statistic you are referencing, I'm a Lutheran, despite never having set foot in a Lutheran church. When you are born in Norway or Denmark you are automatically added to the Lutheran church unless the parents get that stopped.

    A better way is to stop and poll them. 37% believe in God. Now a lot of these are just spiritual or Muslim. 23% don't know, or are agnostic, and 37% don't believe in God and are atheist. An atheist paradise.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...rity-do-not-for-first-time-ever-a6943706.html
     
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    How is keeping people who do harm to others out of my neighborhood totalitarian?
     
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    Like they did in all the atheist communist countries.

    Funny how all the communist countries oppress religion.
    Now the Democrats want to oppress religion here in America.

    Sorry, I'm tired of using the word leftist.. the Democrats nowadays are just leftists.. the more slack we give them the further left they go.. just give them an ugly red star and call them what they are.
     
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    Like Norway?
     
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    What gives you the right to stop them feon doing what you call "harm?"
     
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    They let you go... though if you have been a member someone may contact you out of concern.
     
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    There are no rights. If someone is going to come in and murder my whole family, I'm going to gang up with my community and put them behind bars, to prevent them from doing that.
     
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    What's Norway got to do with communism or atheism?
     
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    By what authority? Because you don't want them doing that?? What if you are wrong and murder is a good thing?
     
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    Japanese are generally quite moral, but not always in the same sense that we think of it. They are mostly good people. Shintoism used to be the dominant "religion," if you want to call it a religion.
     
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    Norway is full of atheists and mostly secular. Only 37% believe in God and few of them even go to church. In Japan, 65% don't believe in God, and 75% don't believe in any specific religion.
     

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